Hawaii verifies Obama birth records to Arizona

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garbon

May 23, 2012, 08:48:07 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/hawaii-verifies-obama-birth-records-arizona-082322680.html

QuoteA nearly three-month-long tussle between two states over President Obama's birth records may be at an end.

The state of Hawaii said late Tuesday it has provided verification of the president's birth to Arizona's secretary of state, who claimed he needed proof of Obama's citizenship before he could place his name on the state's November ballot.

Joshua Wisch, special assistant to Hawaii Attorney General David Louie, told The Associated Press that the matter is now resolved.

Hawaii didn't give in to the request quickly or easily, pressing Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett for proof that the records were needed as part of normal business.

Wisch said Hawaii got the necessary proof, so it sent Bennett's office the verification.

A spokesman for Bennett said he received Hawaii's verification and will comment Wednesday. It was not clear if the new  information would satisfy Bennett or bring the dispute to a close.

In a radio interview last week, Bennett insisted he is "not a birther. I believe the president was born in Hawaii — or at least I hope he was."

But, he said, "my responsibility as secretary of state is to make sure the ballots in Arizona are correct and that those people whose names are on the ballot have met the qualifications for the office they are seeking."

Look at those two states wisely using their tax dollars.  :)
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May 23, 2012, 08:50:04 AM
Thank goodness. This issue is finally settled. ;)
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garbon

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May 23, 2012, 08:51:45 AM
Actually, Arizona hasn't stated that the matter is resolved.
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May 23, 2012, 08:53:25 AM
Is the requirement for being a 'natural born citizen of the United States' require one actually be born in the United States?  His mother was an American citizen...so every American who just happened to be born abroad is not eligible for the Presidency?  That is just idiotic and surely cannot be what the law says on the matter.  What a waste of public money and time.
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#4
May 23, 2012, 08:53:31 AM
it won't be resolved. Ever. They will not be content with a negro ever sitting in the President's chair, as long as they live.

CountDeMoney

#5
May 23, 2012, 09:00:54 AM
Quote from: Jaron on May 23, 2012, 08:50:04 AM
Thank goodness. This issue is finally settled. ;)

:lol:  ;) is right.

CountDeMoney

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May 23, 2012, 09:01:15 AM
Quote from: Tamas on May 23, 2012, 08:53:31 AM
it won't be resolved. Ever. They will not be content with a negro ever sitting in the President's chair, as long as they live.

Shame, isn't it?

Berkut

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May 23, 2012, 09:03:06 AM
Quote from: Tamas on May 23, 2012, 08:53:31 AM
it won't be resolved. Ever. They will not be content with a negro ever sitting in the President's chair, as long as they live.

I am dissapointed in you Tamas. Buying into that kind of racism is rather pathetic.
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May 23, 2012, 09:59:55 AM
Quote from: Valmy on May 23, 2012, 08:53:25 AM
Is the requirement for being a 'natural born citizen of the United States' require one actually be born in the United States?  His mother was an American citizen...so every American who just happened to be born abroad is not eligible for the Presidency?  That is just idiotic and surely cannot be what the law says on the matter.  What a waste of public money and time.

The US Constitution uses the term "natural born citizen" once and never defines it. 

However, Congress defined it in 1790 and it included persons born abroad but possessing at least one US-citizen parent.  it has never since been defined differently, though the term itself doesn't appear in the current naturalization law.
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May 23, 2012, 10:05:33 AM
Quote from: grumbler on May 23, 2012, 09:59:55 AM
Quote from: Valmy on May 23, 2012, 08:53:25 AM
Is the requirement for being a 'natural born citizen of the United States' require one actually be born in the United States?  His mother was an American citizen...so every American who just happened to be born abroad is not eligible for the Presidency?  That is just idiotic and surely cannot be what the law says on the matter.  What a waste of public money and time.

The US Constitution uses the term "natural born citizen" once and never defines it. 

However, Congress defined it in 1790 and it included persons born abroad but possessing at least one US-citizen parent.  it has never since been defined differently, though the term itself doesn't appear in the current naturalization law.

Please dont tell me Arizona is this fucking stupid?
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May 23, 2012, 10:09:52 AM
Quote from: Berkut on May 23, 2012, 09:03:06 AM
Quote from: Tamas on May 23, 2012, 08:53:31 AM
it won't be resolved. Ever. They will not be content with a negro ever sitting in the President's chair, as long as they live.

I am dissapointed in you Tamas. Buying into that kind of racism is rather pathetic.

I hope my sarcasm meter is broken :P

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May 23, 2012, 10:12:29 AM
What happens when you steal it.
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May 23, 2012, 10:18:32 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on May 23, 2012, 10:05:33 AM
Please dont tell me Arizona is this fucking stupid?

It's not just Arizona.  It's a sizable percentage of the Republican base.  They are utterly uninterested in the truth; they just keep harping on the lie hoping that, if they repeat the lie long enough, it will become a truth, and Obama won't be eligible for re-election.

Yes, it is as stupid as betting on unicorns to win the triple crown, but we aren't talking rocket scientists here.  These are people for whom magical thinking is commonplace.  They believe in invisible superfriends who punish the wicked and reward the virtuous; they believe that they will live forever in some Disneyland in the sky; why wouldn't they believe in the magic of the big lie, as well?
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May 23, 2012, 10:51:47 AM
Quote from: grumbler on May 23, 2012, 10:18:32 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on May 23, 2012, 10:05:33 AM
Please dont tell me Arizona is this fucking stupid?

It's not just Arizona.  It's a sizable percentage of the Republican base.  They are utterly uninterested in the truth; they just keep harping on the lie hoping that, if they repeat the lie long enough, it will become a truth, and Obama won't be eligible for re-election.

Yes, it is as stupid as betting on unicorns to win the triple crown, but we aren't talking rocket scientists here.  These are people for whom magical thinking is commonplace.  They believe in invisible superfriends who punish the wicked and reward the virtuous; they believe that they will live forever in some Disneyland in the sky; why wouldn't they believe in the magic of the big lie, as well?

Really, I havent followed this whole issue. Always seen it and said to myself, WTF are they on about now.

What you stated, is what I knew as being correct.  The average American wont even realize they are being insulted by these asshats.

Incredible and shocking really.
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May 23, 2012, 10:59:08 AM
Quote from: Tamas on May 23, 2012, 10:09:52 AM
Quote from: Berkut on May 23, 2012, 09:03:06 AM
Quote from: Tamas on May 23, 2012, 08:53:31 AM
it won't be resolved. Ever. They will not be content with a negro ever sitting in the President's chair, as long as they live.

I am dissapointed in you Tamas. Buying into that kind of racism is rather pathetic.

I hope my sarcasm meter is broken :P

I wasn't being sarcastic in the least, unfortunately.
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