Spanish Holiday Reform--Eggplants may actually have to work for a living

Started by CountDeMoney, May 22, 2012, 07:38:37 AM

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QuoteSpain's Beloved Four-Day Weekends Are At Risk
by Lauren Frayer, NPR

One of the perks of living in Europe is the generous vacation schedule. But the austerity moves across the continent could be changing that, at least in some places. Portugal, for example, recently cut four of its 14 annual holidays.

And Spain is shuffling its calendar to shorten extended weekends — something the prime minister says it can no longer afford. The change could mean the loss of a celebrated tradition: the four-day weekend.

A Holiday For Bullfighting

The paso doble anthem blasts from the iron gates of Madrid's ornate bullring. It's a Tuesday in May, and the people of Madrid are off work yet again. It's a local holiday for the start of the spring bullfighting season.

Sangria flows at bars in the bullring's shadow. Most people haven't worked since Friday. It's what Spaniards call a puente — or bridge — weekend. When a holiday falls on a Tuesday, people skip work Monday — the bridge day — to make an extra-long weekend. Some offices close altogether.

Even people hit hard by Spain's recession, like Clara de Jorge, who's 23 and unemployed, find ways to celebrate.

"I didn't have money to go away, but I still try to enjoy it," she says. "Just staying in the park, going to museums — everything is for free. So that's what I do, because I can't afford going on a trip."

But these long weekends are about to get shorter. Later this year, the government plans to move any holidays that fall on a Tuesday or Thursday to Monday — similar to the way Americans celebrate Memorial Day or Labor Day. Four-day weekends will become just three days.

De Jorge says that's not enough time to visit her family in Valencia.

"What we do on the puentes, we have a chance to get the car, get your family and go away for a few days," she says. "But if we have just three days, we're not going to have that chance to go to the country, go to the beach or whatever."

Getting On The World's Schedule

The Spanish government says the weekend shift is necessary to boost productivity and bring work schedules more in line with the rest of the world.

"I can remember working in the banking sector and the problems we had being on the same schedule with other financial centers," says former banker Gayle Allard, now an economist at Madrid's IE Business School.

"People were working their traditional day, with the long lunch," she says. "If they could kind of align working hours, drop the idea of the siesta — it actually might even be beneficial to Spaniards to work a more compact day and week."

But aside from regular Spaniards who relish their time off, there's also opposition from the Catholic Church. The church bristles at the idea that holidays like the Day of the Blessed Virgin's Immaculate Conception, for example, might be moved. Christmas and Easter would stay put, however.

Talks are under way to get Spain's different regions to agree, as well. The country's provinces all have their own holidays.

During any given week, at least one Spanish city is on vacation. That's frustrating to outsiders — such as EU leaders in northern Europe, whom Spain is trying to court, says economist Fernando Fernandez.

"This is the kind of symbolic change which gives an indication of the degree of reform commitment of the government," he says. "It's one of those things the markets love. They love to see that the government is determined to take unpopular decisions for the good of the nation."

'People Are Used To It'

The shorter weekends are likely to save the Spanish government some money — and that couldn't come at a better time, says Javier Diaz-Gimenez, a professor at IESE Business School.

"Every penny counts," he says. "Say it buys you half a billion euros' worth of GDP. I mean, then you don't need to scrape it from education or health care or other expenditures. So that's very nice."

But back near the bullring, Clara de Jorge says she's not convinced.

"We have these traditions, and we can't change that. People are used to it. I don't think that works," she says.

But de Jorge, like roughly half of 20-somethings here, is jobless. The government hopes that shorter weekends and wide-ranging labor reforms might — just might — help her and other young Spaniards find work.

Iormlund

The amount of silly cliches and misguiding information in that article is pretty staggering.

On the main topic, you don't get to "skip work" on a puente. When you take one of those days off, it naturally counts against the total amount of days off you get each year.
The problem is precisely that not everyone uses up those days (I've never taken a puente off), so in some jobs you might find that you can't reach someone or your workload is limited. Just as it happens during summer time, when many people are on vacation. So (very sensibly I might add), holidays in the midst of the week are being moved closer to the weekend. Problem solved.

CountDeMoney

Quote from: Iormlund on May 22, 2012, 07:58:51 AM
The amount of silly cliches and misguiding information in that article is pretty staggering.

Less bullfights and municipal bloodfeasts, more going to work, dammit.

Iormlund

Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 22, 2012, 08:05:59 AM
Quote from: Iormlund on May 22, 2012, 07:58:51 AM
The amount of silly cliches and misguiding information in that article is pretty staggering.

Less bullfights and municipal bloodfeasts, more going to work, dammit.

Nah, I'm having a siesta. Now where the fuck is my sombrero?

Valmy

Will the Spanish Inquisition be getting involved?

Anything to make Europeans look lazy.  It makes us feel better about us looking stupid.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

CountDeMoney

Quote from: Valmy on May 22, 2012, 08:13:14 AM
Anything to make Europeans look lazy.  It makes us feel better about us looking stupid.

They have days off.  We have disposable income.  Which one would you prefer: 4 days of doing nothing, or 2 days of buying consumer electronics?

Barrister

Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 22, 2012, 08:29:05 AM
Quote from: Valmy on May 22, 2012, 08:13:14 AM
Anything to make Europeans look lazy.  It makes us feel better about us looking stupid.

They have days off.  We have disposable income.  Which one would you prefer: 4 days of doing nothing, or 2 days of buying consumer electronics?

I know which I'd prefer.
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

CountDeMoney

Quote from: Barrister on May 22, 2012, 08:51:08 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 22, 2012, 08:29:05 AM
Quote from: Valmy on May 22, 2012, 08:13:14 AM
Anything to make Europeans look lazy.  It makes us feel better about us looking stupid.

They have days off.  We have disposable income.  Which one would you prefer: 4 days of doing nothing, or 2 days of buying consumer electronics?

I know which I'd prefer.

You are not an American, so nobody cares.

Barrister

Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 22, 2012, 08:53:18 AM
Quote from: Barrister on May 22, 2012, 08:51:08 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 22, 2012, 08:29:05 AM
Quote from: Valmy on May 22, 2012, 08:13:14 AM
Anything to make Europeans look lazy.  It makes us feel better about us looking stupid.

They have days off.  We have disposable income.  Which one would you prefer: 4 days of doing nothing, or 2 days of buying consumer electronics?

I know which I'd prefer.

You are not an American, so nobody cares.

I give you up a big fat floater across the plate, and you bunt?

Weak Seedy. Weak.
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

CountDeMoney


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Barrister

Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 22, 2012, 08:58:37 AM
It's still early.  I haven't even stretched yet.

Early? Early!

I got to work a half hour ago, and I'm two time zones behind you.
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

Zanza

I am currently in a project with some Spanish colleagues. The Germans and the Spanish had a bridge day on the 30th of April, because 1st of May was Labor Day. Then the Germans had one on 18th of May because the 17th was Ascencion, next Monday is off for Pentecost and the 8th of June is off for Corpus Cristi, I think both here and in Spain. The Spanish colleagues had one more day because of some local holiday in Madrid.

We barely find time for our regular communication.  :P

CountDeMoney

Quote from: Barrister on May 22, 2012, 09:01:51 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 22, 2012, 08:58:37 AM
It's still early.  I haven't even stretched yet.

Early? Early!

I got to work a half hour ago, and I'm two time zones behind you.

I'm on the severance clock, baby.  Just running the ball, burning off game time.  :P

The Larch

Quote from: Zanza on May 22, 2012, 09:25:12 AM
I am currently in a project with some Spanish colleagues. The Germans and the Spanish had a bridge day on the 30th of April, because 1st of May was Labor Day. Then the Germans had one on 18th of May because the 17th was Ascencion, next Monday is off for Pentecost and the 8th of June is off for Corpus Cristi, I think both here and in Spain. The Spanish colleagues had one more day because of some local holiday in Madrid.

We barely find time for our regular communication.  :P

And yet we're the lazy ones. :P

It's similar in Austria, my brother gets a shitload of religious holidays over there.