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Syria Disintegrating: Part 2

Started by jimmy olsen, May 22, 2012, 01:22:34 AM

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CountDeMoney

Quote from: Berkut on April 10, 2013, 02:35:43 PM
Is anyone seriously suggesting that we should arm the "rebels" in Syria?

Yes, yes they are.

Viking

Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 10, 2013, 04:14:29 PM
Quote from: Berkut on April 10, 2013, 02:35:43 PM
Is anyone seriously suggesting that we should arm the "rebels" in Syria?

Yes, yes they are.

Daniel Pipes is actually advocating that "we" are the Syrian Government on the grounds that they are the devil we know, and if "we" can drag out this conflict maybe they will all kill each other.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

jimmy olsen

Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 10, 2013, 02:28:23 PM
Quote from: mongers on April 10, 2013, 01:45:35 PM
The Al-Nusra Front, possibly the most effective rebel/insurgent group in Syria, pledges allegiance to al-Qaeda.  :hmm:

Yes, by all means, give them weapons.  WHAT COULD HAPPEN
People wanted to arm the secular rebels who predominated during the beginning of the civil war. We didn't and there has been progressive radicalization of the war as the Gulf states have armed and supported fundamentalist factions. Who would have guessed that would have happened? Oh right, everyone.
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Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
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Ed Anger

I'm pro Assad. Because he has a hot wife.
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 10, 2013, 05:04:12 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 10, 2013, 02:28:23 PM
Quote from: mongers on April 10, 2013, 01:45:35 PM
The Al-Nusra Front, possibly the most effective rebel/insurgent group in Syria, pledges allegiance to al-Qaeda.  :hmm:

Yes, by all means, give them weapons.  WHAT COULD HAPPEN
People wanted to arm the secular rebels who predominated during the beginning of the civil war. We didn't and there has been progressive radicalization of the war as the Gulf states have armed and supported fundamentalist factions. Who would have guessed that would have happened? Oh right, everyone.

"Secular rebels"?  Like in Libya, where the weapons are all over the fucking place now?  Hmm, yeah. 
Fuck "secular rebels".  Today's "secular rebels" are tomorrow's jihadist shitballs using our hardware against Israel. Like I trust the CIA's background checks on gun transactions with that crowd.

DGuller

Any update on Allah's status?  Is he still great?

Viking

Quote from: Ed Anger on April 10, 2013, 06:38:34 PM
I'm pro Assad. Because he has a hot wife.



this one or the skinny one?
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

derspiess

Quote from: DGuller on April 10, 2013, 07:01:56 PM
Any update on Allah's status?  Is he still great?

Yep, sounds like it.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

derspiess

Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 10, 2013, 05:04:12 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 10, 2013, 02:28:23 PM
Quote from: mongers on April 10, 2013, 01:45:35 PM
The Al-Nusra Front, possibly the most effective rebel/insurgent group in Syria, pledges allegiance to al-Qaeda.  :hmm:

Yes, by all means, give them weapons.  WHAT COULD HAPPEN
People wanted to arm the secular rebels who predominated during the beginning of the civil war. We didn't and there has been progressive radicalization of the war as the Gulf states have armed and supported fundamentalist factions. Who would have guessed that would have happened? Oh right, everyone.

Yeah, Tim. It would've made such a huge-ass difference had we armed these "secular" rebels.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

citizen k


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BEIRUT (AP) — The leader of Lebanon's Hezbollah militant group said Tuesday that Syrian rebels will not be able to defeat President Bashar Assad's regime militarily, strongly suggesting that Syria's "real friends" including his Iranian-backed militant group would intervene on the government's side if the need arises.
The powerful Shiite Muslim group is known to be backing Syrian regime fighters in Shiite villages near the Lebanon border against the mostly Sunni rebels fighting to topple Assad. But the comments by Sheik Hassan Nasrallah were the strongest indication yet that his group was ready to get more substantially involved to rescue Assad's embattled regime.
"Syria has real friends in the region and in the world who will not allow Syria to fall in the hands of America or Israel or the Takfiris," he said, referring to followers of an al-Qaida like extremist idology.
Hezbollah and Iran are close allies of Assad. Both have been accused by rebels of sending fighters to assist Syrian troops trying to crush the 2-year-old Syrian uprising as it morphed into a civil war.
Nasrallah said Tuesday that now there are now no Iranian forces in Syria, except for some experts who he said have been in Syria for decades. But he added: "What do you imagine would happen in the future if things deteriorate in a way that requires the intervention of the forces of resistance in this battle?"
Hezbollah has an arsenal that is the most powerful military force in Lebanon, stronger than the national army. Its growing involvement in the Syrian civil war is already raising tensions inside the divided country and has drawn threats from enraged Syrian rebels and militants.
Nasrallah also said his fighters had a duty to protect the holy Shiite shrine of Sayida Zeinab, named for the granddaughter of Islam's Prophet Muhammad's, south of Damascus.
He said rebels were able to capture several villages around the shrine and gunmen were deployed hundreds of meters (yards) away from the shrine who have threatened to destroy it.
"If the shrine is destroyed things will get out of control," Nasrallah said citing the 2006 bombing of the Shiite al-Askari shrine in the Iraqi city of Samarra. That attack was blamed on al-Qaida in Iraq and set off years of retaliatory bloodshed between Sunni and Shiite extremists that left thousands of Iraqis dead and pushed the country to the brink of civil war.
Nasrallah also said that accusations that the regime has used chemical weapons were an attempt to justify foreign intervention in Syria.
While there has been growing speculation about Hezbollah's role in the conflict next door, the violence inside Syria has raged on, including in the capital, where a powerful bomb on Tuesday ripped through a bustling commercial district, killing at least 14 people.
The blast shattered store fronts, set cars ablaze and brought Syria's civil war to the heart of Damascus for the second consecutive day.
On Monday, Syrian Prime Minister Wael al-Halqi narrowly escaped an assassination attempt after a car bomb targeted his convoy as it drove through a posh Damascus neighborhood. The bombings appear to be part of an accelerated campaign by opposition forces to hit Assad's regime in the heavily defended capital.


mongers

Gripping viewing about the conflict between different religions in the Orontes valley:

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/dispatches/4od#3510024
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

mongers

The rebel shown cutting out and taking a bit of a government soldier's heart*, is this man, he was features in a channel4 news report in August last year:

http://www.channel4.com/news/syria-rebel-eating-heart-soldier-abu-sakkar-mani




*apparently it looked more like a part of the dead man's lung.
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

11B4V

Quote from: mongers on May 14, 2013, 07:55:18 PM
The rebel shown cutting out and taking a bit of a government soldier's heart*, is this man, he was features in a channel4 news report in August last year:

http://www.channel4.com/news/syria-rebel-eating-heart-soldier-abu-sakkar-mani






*apparently it looked more like a part of the dead man's lung.

They're barbarians. This surprises you?
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

CountDeMoney

Quote from: 11B4V on May 14, 2013, 08:13:29 PM
They're barbarians. This surprises you?

We should arm them immediately.

11B4V

Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 14, 2013, 08:16:18 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on May 14, 2013, 08:13:29 PM
They're barbarians. This surprises you?

We should arm them immediately.

='s another Obama scandal.  :lol:
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".