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Syria Disintegrating: Part 2

Started by jimmy olsen, May 22, 2012, 01:22:34 AM

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derspiess

Quote from: Berkut on February 28, 2013, 04:39:58 PM
I read somewhere that he was likely actually forcibly blown out the hatch by expanding gas within the fighting compartment. Hard to say if he lives through it though - almost certianly going to have extreme burns, you can see most of his clothes are blown off.

He was able to get away under his own power-- I bet he survives.  Until he gets whacked by rebels, of course.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

11B4V

"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

11B4V

Quote from: Viking on February 27, 2013, 07:35:36 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on February 27, 2013, 06:06:41 PM
Syrian urban combat porn with old tanks :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=x2TLS1sqMl8

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=efb_1359418903

I'm guessing the reactive armor didn't work. It made pretty bangs when the thing was burning though....

Those T-72's do not have Reative armor in the vid.
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

11B4V

Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 08, 2013, 10:16:47 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 08, 2013, 09:02:38 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 08, 2013, 05:18:32 AM
This has got to be the biggest truck bomb I've ever seen! Damn!

Because you've been around so many.
There's a thing called video Seedy, you might want to look into it.

You can't deny that one's huge.

That's what she said.
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

Viking

We did see what the rocket firers did after firing... they ran like crazy. We did hear firing in the background, presumably a good deal of it was into the smoke cloud the rocket left. T-72s run on diesel, perhaps they were pre-heating the fuel, perhaps they were more worried about small arms fire. Perhaps they have been trained to stick together and not scatter.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

CountDeMoney

Quote from: Berkut on February 28, 2013, 04:39:58 PM
I read somewhere that he was likely actually forcibly blown out the hatch by expanding gas within the fighting compartment. Hard to say if he lives through it though - almost certianly going to have extreme burns, you can see most of his clothes are blown off.

Yeah, it looked like he got tossed right out of the hatch by the blast;  he ran, but probably only because his body didn't know how fucked up it was at the moment.

Razgovory

Quote from: Viking on March 01, 2013, 03:04:10 AM
We did see what the rocket firers did after firing... they ran like crazy. We did hear firing in the background, presumably a good deal of it was into the smoke cloud the rocket left. T-72s run on diesel, perhaps they were pre-heating the fuel, perhaps they were more worried about small arms fire. Perhaps they have been trained to stick together and not scatter.

Or perhaps combat simply doesn't move as fast as does in the movies.  It's hard to see out of those tanks, they probably didn't know which way to run.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

11B4V

Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 01, 2013, 07:19:15 AM
Quote from: Berkut on February 28, 2013, 04:39:58 PM
I read somewhere that he was likely actually forcibly blown out the hatch by expanding gas within the fighting compartment. Hard to say if he lives through it though - almost certianly going to have extreme burns, you can see most of his clothes are blown off.

Yeah, it looked like he got tossed right out of the hatch by the blast;  he ran, but probably only because his body didn't know how fucked up it was at the moment.

It would appear the ammo storage for the T-72 auto loader is not conducive to very good crew survivability.   :lol:
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

DGuller

Yeah, Soviets definitely have a habit of blurring the distinction between ammo racks and reactive armor.

11B4V

Quote from: DGuller on March 01, 2013, 10:51:38 AM
Yeah, Soviets definitely have a habit of blurring the distinction between ammo racks and reactive armor.

hehe. Igor I told you the explosive armor goes on the outside of de tank  :D.
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".


CountDeMoney

Quote from: 11B4V on March 01, 2013, 10:54:05 AM
Quote from: DGuller on March 01, 2013, 10:51:38 AM
Yeah, Soviets definitely have a habit of blurring the distinction between ammo racks and reactive armor.

hehe. Igor I told you the explosive armor goes on the outside of de tank  :D.

In Russian Tank, armor reacts to you.

derspiess

Good thing SirHockey's not here.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

KRonn

Given the various radical groups have  been more mixed into the Rebel factions as time has gone on, I'm almost hoping that Assad remains in power. This is going to be a major mess if/when Assad falls, with the stronger possibility of more extreme factions taking/sharing power. At least that's how it looks to me at this point.

The West has stayed out of it for too long, worried that they'd be supporting extremist groups. But that waiting seems to have been self defeating, giving the extreme groups more chance to get more involved. Perhaps the US and what ever Euro nations that would be so inclinded should have tried harder to work with at least some of the identifiable more moderate factions. Plus if Assad falls the West will have less influence, having kept out of things for so long anyway.

Phillip V