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Syria Disintegrating: Part 2

Started by jimmy olsen, May 22, 2012, 01:22:34 AM

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CountDeMoney

Quote from: Valmy on December 15, 2016, 10:41:54 AM
I don't get the hand wringing over Aleppo.

Because we all know what happens when Middle Eastern states collapse.

mongers

It's really becoming clear the big involvement Russian special forces have had in this fight for Aleppo, Russian TV is apparently full of reports glorifying their efforts.

I've previously heard some reporters say they've seen Russian troops close to the front-lines, but couldn't film them, now it seems they've been fighting alongside militias and Syrian units, not just doing FAC or the sort of advisory work the Americans* are said to be doing in Iraq.


* I suspect the Americans around Mosul are more heavily involved that the administration would like to admit publicly, but being more casualty adverse maybe they're not allowed to lead operations from front? 
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They need the trigger time for when they're deployed on the Rio Grande.

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Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 15, 2016, 02:53:30 PM
Quote from: Valmy on December 15, 2016, 10:41:54 AM
I don't get the hand wringing over Aleppo.

Because we all know what happens when Middle Eastern states collapse.

I meant the deep sense of guilt for not saving the day. I mean yeah there is plenty of reason to be concerned with the disaster in Syria.
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mongers

Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 15, 2016, 03:30:11 PM
They need the trigger time for when they're deployed on the Rio Grande.

What as Trumps new contract border guards?  :P
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Quote from: mongers on December 15, 2016, 03:46:32 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 15, 2016, 03:30:11 PM
They need the trigger time for when they're deployed on the Rio Grande.

What as Trumps new contract border guards?  :P

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Where in the fuck has these rebels been charging their phones to make those sob story videos CNN has been trying to jam down our throats?
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Quote from: Zanza on December 12, 2016, 04:24:20 PM
From what I read, the Syrians and Russians are mostly concentrating on fighting the various rebels in the North-West of Syria, not the Islamic State. Perhaps they just don't care too much about Palmyra at the moment and withdrew to fight the rebels elsewhere.

They don't care about Palmyra.
The focus is on controlling the big cities in the west, the lines of communication to Latakia, and the road from Damascus to Aleppo.
Holding Palmyra is a strategic distraction.
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Quote from: Barrister on December 15, 2016, 02:27:10 PM
Quote from: Oexmelin on December 15, 2016, 02:24:28 PM
Really?

Perhaps I misphrased myself.  I don't enjoy in the least the tragedy of Aleppo.  But seeing the sole Russian aircraft carrier belching smoke, having to be towed into harbour, and ultimately having to station all of it's planes on-shore amused me greatly. :)

The thing is, there are 20-some countries now that have aircraft carriers of some sort, but most of them just have what are glorified escort carriers.  There are only 3 countries that have anything that could be considered a proper fleet carrier--us, the French, and the Brazilians.  Though the Indian and British navies will be back in the game when/if their new carriers ate finished.

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Quote from: The Brain on December 15, 2016, 05:53:56 PM
The road from Damascus is nothing special.

Just like in the bible, modern travelers on the road are being struck down with a blinding light from the sky and booming sounds from the clouds. It really begs the question, did Saul really encounter Jesus on the road to damascus, or a US military drone caught in a time warp piloted by a pro christian drone operator in Kansas?
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CountDeMoney

That's just a pic of a homegrown radical Islamic terrorist.

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But with the Turks? "Is he throwing a band aid, asking for ammo, or telling us the position of a sniper?"  :huh:
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Tamas

Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 16, 2016, 06:29:10 AM
That's just a pic of a homegrown radical Islamic terrorist.

Well, it is getting increasingly hard to argue that the Entente victory in WW1, the way they handled the Middle East in particular, was a disaster, and should have never happened.