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UK carrier policy: dumb or dumberer

Started by Gups, May 10, 2012, 08:51:41 AM

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CountDeMoney


Tonitrus

#76
The obvious solution to this dilemma...is giant dirigible airborne fighter/bomber-carrier/fortresses.  Operated by the USAF, of course.



The whole floating-on-water thing is sooo 18th century.

Ideologue

Quote from: Tonitrus on May 10, 2012, 02:19:51 PM
We'd probably be better off just building "new" F-14s, F-16s, A-10s, F-15s, etc....

Or, one thousand new B-52s for a one thousand bomber raid. :mmm:
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Brazen

Quote from: Tonitrus on May 14, 2012, 02:00:21 AM
The obvious solution to this dilemma...is giant dirigible airborne fighter/bomber-carrier/fortresses.  Operated by the USAF, of course.
The LEMV, you mean? OK, they say it's only for surveillance, but just look at it:



http://www.as.northropgrumman.com/products/lemv/

"Unblinking stare" has to be one of my favourite military idioms.

Ed Anger

Quote from: Ideologue on May 14, 2012, 02:13:01 AM
Quote from: Tonitrus on May 10, 2012, 02:19:51 PM
We'd probably be better off just building "new" F-14s, F-16s, A-10s, F-15s, etc....

Or, one thousand new B-52s for a one thousand bomber raid. :mmm:

One thousand B-52's doing an ARC Light strike? I think I just creamed my pants.
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Neil

Quote from: Ideologue on May 14, 2012, 02:13:01 AM
Quote from: Tonitrus on May 10, 2012, 02:19:51 PM
We'd probably be better off just building "new" F-14s, F-16s, A-10s, F-15s, etc....
Or, one thousand new B-52s for a one thousand bomber raid. :mmm:
Haven't we discovered that the B-52 is a pretty ineffective weapon?
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11B4V

Quote from: Neil on May 14, 2012, 09:34:53 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on May 14, 2012, 02:13:01 AM
Quote from: Tonitrus on May 10, 2012, 02:19:51 PM
We'd probably be better off just building "new" F-14s, F-16s, A-10s, F-15s, etc....
Or, one thousand new B-52s for a one thousand bomber raid. :mmm:
Haven't we discovered that the B-52 is a pretty ineffective weapon?

What does that have to do with anything? Go ask an Iraqi soldier from GW1.
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"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

CountDeMoney

Quote from: Neil on May 14, 2012, 09:34:53 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on May 14, 2012, 02:13:01 AM
Quote from: Tonitrus on May 10, 2012, 02:19:51 PM
We'd probably be better off just building "new" F-14s, F-16s, A-10s, F-15s, etc....
Or, one thousand new B-52s for a one thousand bomber raid. :mmm:
Haven't we discovered that the B-52 is a pretty ineffective weapon?

I dunno...20 nuclear ALCMs under the wings still make them pretty effective.

And yeah, like 11Bravo said, ask the Vietnamese, Republican Guardsmen, Serbs and Taliban on the receiving end of a B-52 party platter.

11B4V

Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 14, 2012, 10:02:04 AM
Quote from: Neil on May 14, 2012, 09:34:53 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on May 14, 2012, 02:13:01 AM
Quote from: Tonitrus on May 10, 2012, 02:19:51 PM
We'd probably be better off just building "new" F-14s, F-16s, A-10s, F-15s, etc....
Or, one thousand new B-52s for a one thousand bomber raid. :mmm:
Haven't we discovered that the B-52 is a pretty ineffective weapon?

I dunno...20 nuclear ALCMs under the wings still make them pretty effective.

And yeah, like 11Bravo said, ask the Vietnamese, Republican Guardsmen, Serbs and Taliban on the receiving end of a B-52 party platter.

He's Canadian he doesnt understand.
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

CountDeMoney

Quote from: 11B4V on May 14, 2012, 10:03:35 AM
He's Canadian he doesnt understand.

With a battleship fetish, no less.   Go fig.

Neil

Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 14, 2012, 10:02:04 AM
I dunno...20 nuclear ALCMs under the wings still make them pretty effective.
No, that would make them even more useless.  What good is a nuclear weapon if you can't even use it?
QuoteAnd yeah, like 11Bravo said, ask the Vietnamese, Republican Guardsmen, Serbs and Taliban on the receiving end of a B-52 party platter.
The US lost the Vietnam War, where B-52s were used.  The US won World War II, where dreadnought battleships were used.

I rest my case.
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Weren't some of the Iowas used in Vietnam?
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11B4V

Quote from: Neil on May 14, 2012, 10:06:39 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 14, 2012, 10:02:04 AM
I dunno...20 nuclear ALCMs under the wings still make them pretty effective.
No, that would make them even more useless.  What good is a nuclear weapon if you can't even use it?
QuoteAnd yeah, like 11Bravo said, ask the Vietnamese, Republican Guardsmen, Serbs and Taliban on the receiving end of a B-52 party platter.
The US lost the Vietnam War, where B-52s were used.  The US won World War II, where dreadnought battleships were used.

I rest my case.

Battleboats and there like were obsolete by the start of WW2. Nice try.
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

CountDeMoney

Quote from: 11B4V on May 14, 2012, 10:49:29 AM
Battleboats and there like were obsolete by the start of WW2. Nice try.

Talking to a Canadian about defense is about as effective as talking to a gay Polish lawyer about, well, anything.

Ed Anger

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on May 14, 2012, 10:33:38 AM
Weren't some of the Iowas used in Vietnam?

In Gulf War 1 too. Sweet 16" action.
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