Obama Says Same-Sex Marriage Should Be Legal

[derspiess]

Log Cabin Republicans are yesterday's news.  The cool group is GOProud.

[Martinus]

Same shit. They invited Ann Coulter to their convention. :wtfux:

[Sheilbh]

In their defence they thought she was a drag act.

[Razgovory]

In their defence they thought she was a drag act.

Easy mistake to make.  The chick has an Adam's apple.

[Admiral Yi]

In their defence they thought she was a drag act.

[Jacob]

Well, the difference is that Obama says he's thought about it and his position has changed.

Yes-- he even mentioned that he talked to his family about it 

He's such a deep, thoughtful man.

Still better than Romney's 2008-2010: - I am/ was against any kind of bail out for the auto industry; 2012: I always advocated a managed transition for the auto industry and take credit for the fact it's recovering now.

[viper37]

In their defence they thought she was a drag act.

[DGuller]

Remember, he was opposed to Gitmo before he was for Gitmo.  Obama and Romney stand on principle in the same way: on a swivel.

When a principle is wrong, I'm glad to see it sacrificed.

The Log Cabin Republicans (surprisingly) slammed Obama on this, by the way.

What else is new?  Party affiliation matters, personal issues don't.

[Josephus]

So will this help his re-election or not?

[Scipio]

Remember, he was opposed to Gitmo before he was for Gitmo.  Obama and Romney stand on principle in the same way: on a swivel.

When a principle is wrong, I'm glad to see it sacrificed.

The Log Cabin Republicans (surprisingly) slammed Obama on this, by the way.

That's because Obama said that marriage should be decided upon by the states.  Judge Andrew Napolitano presented a good, brief analysis of Obama's position here contrasted with the USSC's decision in Loving v. Virginia.  Obama has not stated that gay marriage is a fundamental right; thus, he is agreeing implicitly that straight marriage is superior to gay marriage before the law.

[Fate]

So will this help his re-election or not?

Probably not, but I doubt states like Indiana, Virginia, and North Carolina were going to go his way this time regardless of his stance on gay marriage. Florida seems like it'd be the most tolerant of the purple states that he needs to win, so maybe he'll be able to squeak by with a win.

[Admiral Yi]

Still better than Romney's 2008-2010: - I am/ was against any kind of bail out for the auto industry; 2012: I always advocated a managed transition for the auto industry and take credit for the fact it's recovering now.

Last sound bite I heard from Mitt on the auto bailout was it should have run through normal bankruptcy without a government handout for Obama's union buddies.

[citizen k]

"The word evolution signifies change that has an ending at some point."

It does?

[Jacob]

Still better than Romney's 2008-2010: - I am/ was against any kind of bail out for the auto industry; 2012: I always advocated a managed transition for the auto industry and take credit for the fact it's recovering now.

Last sound bite I heard from Mitt on the auto bailout was it should have run through normal bankruptcy without a government handout for Obama's union buddies.

You obviously didn't get the memo: http://www.forbes.com/sites/michelinemaynard/2012/05/08/mitt-romney-takes-credit-for-the-auto-bailout-say-what/

" My own view, by the way, was that the auto companies needed to go through bankruptcy before government help. And frankly, that's finally what the president did. He finally took them through bankruptcy. That was the right course I argued for from the very beginning. It was the UAW and the president that delayed the idea of bankruptcy. I pushed the idea of a managed bankruptcy and finally when that was done, and help was given, the companies got back on their feet. So I'll take a lot of credit for the fact that this industry's come back."

Compare with:

If General Motors, Ford and Chrysler get the bailout that their chief executives asked for yesterday, you can kiss the American automotive industry goodbye. It won't go overnight, but its demise will be virtually guaranteed.

http://articles.businessinsider.com/2012-05-08/politics/31618435_1_auto-bailout-mitt-romney-auto-industry

[Faeelin]

Still better than Romney's 2008-2010: - I am/ was against any kind of bail out for the auto industry; 2012: I always advocated a managed transition for the auto industry and take credit for the fact it's recovering now.

Last sound bite I heard from Mitt on the auto bailout was it should have run through normal bankruptcy without a government handout for Obama's union buddies.

My own view, by the way, was that the auto companies needed to go through bankruptcy before government help, and frankly that's finally what the President did," Romney said during an interview with ABC News' Cleveland affiliate WEWS on Monday.  "He took them through bankruptcy. That was the right course I argued for from the very beginning. It was the AW and the President that delayed the idea of bankruptcy."

"I pushed the idea of a managed bankruptcy, and finally when that was done and help was given, the companies got back on their feet, so I'll take a lot of credit for the fact that this industry's come back," Romney told WEWS.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/05/romney-takes-credit-for-auto-industry-turnaround-reignites-bailout-debate/

The bankruptcy and reorganization succeeded because of the government's aid which Romney opposed. If all his point was that the auto industry should go into bankruptcy, then what's his point?