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Cuba to let its people leave the country?

Started by jimmy olsen, May 03, 2012, 12:45:34 AM

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Josquius

Artists or some other lay about profession should moonlight as doctors.
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: derspiess on May 03, 2012, 11:48:51 PM
Really?  I'd rather be treated by a doctor who wasn't all worn out from having a second job & wasn't overly distracted by financial problems.

You mean, like a resident working at two hospitals at once with $130,000 in student loan debt?

Razgovory

Quote from: derspiess on May 03, 2012, 11:48:51 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 03, 2012, 10:29:09 PM
Quote from: derspiess on May 03, 2012, 09:49:18 PM
Cuban doctors moonlight by driving cabs in order to scrape together a living.  How messed up is that.

I rather like that.

Really?  I'd rather be treated by a doctor who wasn't all worn out from having a second job & wasn't overly distracted by financial problems.

Why stop at doctors?  Why not airline pilots?  They barely make a living as it is.  They often work two jobs.
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derspiess

Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 04, 2012, 07:17:33 AM
Quote from: derspiess on May 03, 2012, 11:48:51 PM
Really?  I'd rather be treated by a doctor who wasn't all worn out from having a second job & wasn't overly distracted by financial problems.

You mean, like a resident working at two hospitals at once with $130,000 in student loan debt?

Sure.  But in this case, shame on him for taking on so much debt.
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Valmy

Quote from: derspiess on May 04, 2012, 11:12:49 AM
Sure.  But in this case, shame on him for taking on so much debt.

I hear it is hard to go to medical school for free.
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derspiess

Quote from: Valmy on May 04, 2012, 11:27:56 AM
Quote from: derspiess on May 04, 2012, 11:12:49 AM
Sure.  But in this case, shame on him for taking on so much debt.

I hear it is hard to go to medical school for free.

Well, not *that* hard.  The catch is that you gotta join the military ;)

But seriously, I tend not to have much sympathy for people who carry a lot of student loan debt, especially when i hear that they opted not to go to in-state schools with lower tuition. 
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Martim Silva

I'd just like to point out that Cubans were always free to leave the country of they wished.

What happens is that there is a State requirement that people leaving must have a certain amount of financial means, in order to ensure that they wouldn't become a burden on the recipient country (aka a responsible emmigration policy). That meant that the lazy just couldn't go and live off welfare elsewere.

But the US always saw that as something hideous, for some reason. Well, it seems Cuba decided Washington can only learn through experience...

Admiral Yi

How many $20 monthly salaries do they have to save up before they qualify?

CountDeMoney

Quote from: derspiess on May 04, 2012, 11:12:49 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 04, 2012, 07:17:33 AM
Quote from: derspiess on May 03, 2012, 11:48:51 PM
Really?  I'd rather be treated by a doctor who wasn't all worn out from having a second job & wasn't overly distracted by financial problems.

You mean, like a resident working at two hospitals at once with $130,000 in student loan debt?

Sure.  But in this case, shame on him for taking on so much debt.

Yeah. Dumbasses going to Harvard Med when it wasn't even double-coupon Tuesday.

derspiess

Quote from: Martim Silva on May 04, 2012, 01:28:03 PM
I'd just like to point out that Cubans were always free to leave the country of they wished.

What happens is that there is a State requirement that people leaving must have a certain amount of financial means, in order to ensure that they wouldn't become a burden on the recipient country

:lmfao:
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Martim Silva

Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 04, 2012, 01:30:41 PM
How many $20 monthly salaries do they have to save up before they qualify?

While things are different with the US (there are migration compacts that Washington never really abided to), with the exception of the members of certain vital professions (which Havana wants to keep for obvious reasons), Cubans abroad should be able have the means to pay a monthly fee of $40. If they wouldn't be able to do that, then they would be considered 'freeloaders'.

Admiral Yi

Quote from: Martim Silva on May 04, 2012, 01:48:18 PM
While things are different with the US (there are migration compacts that Washington never really abided to), with the exception of the members of certain vital professions (which Havana wants to keep for obvious reasons), Cubans abroad should be able have the means to pay a monthly fee of $40. If they wouldn't be able to do that, then they would be considered 'freeloaders'.

So for example if a member of the Cuban national baseball team were to contact a US pro team which guaranteed him a monthly income of at least $40 said Cuban team member would be completely free to leave the country?

Razgovory

Quote from: Martim Silva on May 04, 2012, 01:48:18 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 04, 2012, 01:30:41 PM
How many $20 monthly salaries do they have to save up before they qualify?

While things are different with the US (there are migration compacts that Washington never really abided to), with the exception of the members of certain vital professions (which Havana wants to keep for obvious reasons), Cubans abroad should be able have the means to pay a monthly fee of $40. If they wouldn't be able to do that, then they would be considered 'freeloaders'.

So emigration restrictions only effect those people who well paid and those who aren't.  Other then that, everyone is free to go.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

HVC

Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 04, 2012, 01:53:56 PM
Quote from: Martim Silva on May 04, 2012, 01:48:18 PM
While things are different with the US (there are migration compacts that Washington never really abided to), with the exception of the members of certain vital professions (which Havana wants to keep for obvious reasons), Cubans abroad should be able have the means to pay a monthly fee of $40. If they wouldn't be able to do that, then they would be considered 'freeloaders'.

So for example if a member of the Cuban national baseball team were to contact a US pro team which guaranteed him a monthly income of at least $40 said Cuban team member would be completely free to leave the country?
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Quote from: derspiess on May 04, 2012, 01:46:56 PM
Quote from: Martim Silva on May 04, 2012, 01:28:03 PM
I'd just like to point out that Cubans were always free to leave the country of they wished.

What happens is that there is a State requirement that people leaving must have a certain amount of financial means, in order to ensure that they wouldn't become a burden on the recipient country

:lmfao:

Not entirely true. They did require an exit visa though, and that cost a bit of cash.
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