STAR TREK

[celedhring]

Amanda Plummer is awesome. This is all I have to say.

Yeah, this week's episode was pretty meh, but she livened it up considerably. 

I love how she can go from intimidated/scared to cold/calculating ("Again. ... Again."  ) to over the top hammy villain from one take to the next. And it obviously helps that her character has a quite justified grudge against the Federation. Probably the best Trek villain since Khan and Gul Dukat? (Though Trek doesn't generally have a strong rogue's gallery of really good, compelling villains.)

It's definitely the best villain of all the new batch of Trek. It also helps that they also give a reasoning for her insanity/hamminess so it's just not Plummer playing over the top for its own sake.

There are some other memorable Trek villains. General Chang, Weyoun, Kruge... NOT the Borg Queen though. I hate the Borg Queen.

[Syt]

I'm neutral towards the concept of a Borg queen. FWIW I did enjoy Annie Wirsching's performance in S2 of Picard (RIP ).

[celedhring]

I think the Borg Queen undercuts the concept of the Borg as, essentially, grey goo. We have plenty of villainous factions with charismatic individual leaders, no need to make the Borg just another one.

[Syt]

I get that, but I also think that ship kinda sailed when we were introduced to Locutus of Borg.

[celedhring]

That was a kind of an one-off though, not part of how the Collective was supposed to function. Anyway, what's done it's done, but I still hate it 

Incidentally, not that I need them to show up in Picard, but I wonder what the Vorta and the Jem-Hadar are up to these days. It was always kinda strange how everything Dominion-related was always sorta contained to DS9, with little reference to it in other shows/movies - despite the Dominion Wars being such a galaxy scale event - until this season of Picard.

[viper37]

(Though Trek doesn't generally have a strong rogue's gallery of really good, compelling villains.)

Moriarty, Gul Dukhat, Seska (B-), Weyoun, Khan, Sela, Captain Angel, Lore,

I think they had some good ones.  Seska in Voyager was the weakest one, but still enjoyable.

[viper37]

That was a kind of an one-off though, not part of how the Collective was supposed to function. Anyway, what's done it's done, but I still hate it 

Incidentally, not that I need them to show up in Picard, but I wonder what the Vorta and the Jem-Hadar are up to these days. It was always kinda strange how everything Dominion-related was always sorta contained to DS9, with little reference to it in other shows/movies - despite the Dominion Wars being such a galaxy scale event - until this season of Picard.

Voyager were lights years away.  But once they got messages from the Alpha Quadrant, they learnt about the Dominion and the fate of the Maquis.  The Jem-Hadar appeared in holographic form in the episode "Flesh and Blood" of Voyager.

By the time the TNG movies post First Contact were released, I think the war was over.  During First Contact Worf was on DS9, he joined the fight with the Defiant, but the war with the Dominion hadn't begun yet.

By the next movie, I think we see admiral Janeway, and Voyager came back after the war.

Imho, there is a huge plot hole here in Picard.

Plummer's character said the cure wasn't given, one of their own had to steal it.  That was false.  O'Brian and Bashir stole it from Section 31 to cure Odo and Odo was allowed to go back to the great link to cure everyone, after curing the female changeling in the DS9 finale.

Considering that the Founders were well on their way to commit a genocide of their own, at least on Cardassia, it's very hard to take the high moral ground here...

[HVC]

Weyoun was indeed great. Combs Also did a decent foe to friend turn as Shran

[Syt]

Insurrection was set during the Dominion War. The Federation was keen to harness the rejuvenation powers of the Elf planet to deal with the influx of war wounded.

[HVC]

Imho, there is a huge plot hole here in Picard.

Plummer's character said the cure wasn't given, one of their own had to steal it.  That was false.  O'Brian and Bashir stole it from Section 31 to cure Odo and Odo was allowed to go back to the great link to cure everyone, after curing the female changeling in the DS9 finale.

Considering that the Founders were well on their way to commit a genocide of their own, at least on Cardassia, it's very hard to take the high moral ground here...

The stealing she mentioned was bashir stealing it from section 31. One of their own was one of star fleets own, not a founder

[celedhring]

Weyoun was indeed great. Combs Also did a decent foe to friend turn as Shran

Lack of Jeffrey Combs in the current incarnation of Trek, given that he played like 34243545463 characters in the old shows, is disappointing 

[Syt]

Imho, there is a huge plot hole here in Picard.

Plummer's character said the cure wasn't given, one of their own had to steal it.  That was false.  O'Brian and Bashir stole it from Section 31 to cure Odo and Odo was allowed to go back to the great link to cure everyone, after curing the female changeling in the DS9 finale.

Considering that the Founders were well on their way to commit a genocide of their own, at least on Cardassia, it's very hard to take the high moral ground here...

Plothole, or a very biased view of the events on her side.

[HVC]

Weyoun was indeed great. Combs Also did a decent foe to friend turn as Shran

Lack of Jeffrey Combs in the current incarnation of Trek, given that he played like 34243545463 characters in the old shows, is disappointing 

From failed riker to a great part of Star Trek. They could have made him the voice of the Shrike. Tying in some lower decks too 

[Syt]

Weyoun was indeed great. Combs Also did a decent foe to friend turn as Shran

Lack of Jeffrey Combs in the current incarnation of Trek, given that he played like 34243545463 characters in the old shows, is disappointing 

He did show up on Lower Decks.

[Syt]