Forbes on Kobe Beef (and Champagne)

[Razgovory]

how strict are geographic trademarks I have to wonder?
Could one have Kobe styled beef?- make clear its not Kobe beef but it is the same stuff pretty much, just from elsewhere. Or Kendel style cake or champagne style wine or whatever.
Or is all mention of the place in question utterly verbotten?

Well part of the taste is from what the livestock eats/the type of soil the crop grows in.  For instance Soylent Green from India and China has a straggly gamey taste while Soylent Green from Britain is somewhat greasy and has a high fat content.

[CountDeMoney]

Well part of the taste is from what the livestock eats/the type of soil the crop grows in.

Yup;  just ask any chick that swallows whether she can tell a smoker or not.  Or a fag, for that matter.

[Sheilbh]

Could one have Kobe styled beef?- make clear its not Kobe beef but it is the same stuff pretty much, just from elsewhere. Or Kendel style cake or champagne style wine or whatever.
Or is all mention of the place in question utterly verbotten?

You can have x-style stuff

[The Larch]

While we're on the subject of bourgeoise food, THIS:



Is fucking awesome cheese. I'm seriously tempted to drop $167 to get a 5 pound ball of it. And I'd eat it all in one go, and have absolutely no regrets.

If you want cheese shaped deliciousness then you have to try this:



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torta_del_Casar

[Eddie Teach]

Anyhow, you think it'd be acceptable for someone to start up a series of colleges (or a business school) and call them Stanford, Yale and Harvard and hand out diplomas and certificates that are similar to the ones that the more established institutions hand out?

http://www.ccis.edu/

[Razgovory]

You know, for the first time I noticed the that Latin roots in the word "Champagne".

[Malthus]

Do the non-snobs even care? A) They don't know better and B) already like the non-great stuff that they associate with being great...otherwise why would they be buying it?

Well, if we label things properly the non-snobs will have the opportunity to make the decision for themselves.

... which is why we have country of origin labelling on things - much less ambiguous than some alleged "rule" that is followed in some places, but not others, that a product called "champagne" must come from France. With country of origin labelling, there is no doubt whatsoever where the stuff comes from, right? So non-snobs, who are unlikely to know exactly which jurisdictions have or do not have this "rule", cannot be fooled, correct?

[Scipio]

While we're on the subject of bourgeoise food, THIS:



Is fucking awesome cheese. I'm seriously tempted to drop $167 to get a 5 pound ball of it. And I'd eat it all in one go, and have absolutely no regrets.

If you want cheese shaped deliciousness then you have to try this:


That looks delicious. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torta_del_Casar

[grumbler]

While we're on the subject of bourgeoise food, THIS:



Is fucking awesome cheese. I'm seriously tempted to drop $167 to get a 5 pound ball of it. And I'd eat it all in one go, and have absolutely no regrets.

If you want cheese shaped deliciousness then you have to try this:


That looks delicious. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torta_del_Casar

[The Brain]

While we're on the subject of bourgeoise food, THIS:



Is fucking awesome cheese. I'm seriously tempted to drop $167 to get a 5 pound ball of it. And I'd eat it all in one go, and have absolutely no regrets.

If you want cheese shaped deliciousness then you have to try this:


That looks delicious. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torta_del_Casar

[Ideologue]

4) I'm typing on languish and say that I had some champagne at brunch and then get told that no I didn't.

That reminds me of a very classic line from a satirical movie that was very popular in Soviet Union.  "Only aristocrats and degenerates drink champagne in the morning..."  Funny how fitting Soviet wisdoms can be to American life.

[Jaron]

While we're on the subject of bourgeoise food, THIS:



Is fucking awesome cheese. I'm seriously tempted to drop $167 to get a 5 pound ball of it. And I'd eat it all in one go, and have absolutely no regrets.

If you want cheese shaped deliciousness then you have to try this:


That looks delicious. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torta_del_Casar

[Ideologue]

I acknowledge there are some differences, but I still thing it is hypocritical not to acknowledge it when at the same time you keep delaying other forms of IP entering the public domain (a number of Disney creations, for example).

And I see differences and think's it not hypocritical.  So there.

The differences are fundamental.  I have no idea what Jake is talking about.  It's like saying that the only place that can make Hamburgers is hamburg, decades after extra-regional producers started making them, and the rest are "grilled beef patties."

I also take severe issue with the idea that trademark-like protections can be enforced based on geographical location and a process used by a diffuse group rather than by innovators and their legal assigns, but maybe that's just me.

[Fireblade]

While we're on the subject of bourgeoise food, THIS:



Is fucking awesome cheese. I'm seriously tempted to drop $167 to get a 5 pound ball of it. And I'd eat it all in one go, and have absolutely no regrets.

If you want cheese shaped deliciousness then you have to try this:


That looks delicious. 

It looks like a prop from a Japanese bukkake porn. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torta_del_Casar

[Ideologue]

But you aren't really. What you are actually doing is vaunting up the product of a particular region / group of growers and saying the gov't feels that this product is so distinct as to deserve it's own name.  Rather than opening up the choice (as you've established that anyone who doesn't get the same label isn't worthy of it), ostensibly, you've set up an agency that tells individuals what is truly "better"...when all you've really told them is that said makers have a really good lobbyists and lawyers.

Vaunting up? 

Anyhow, you think it'd be acceptable for someone to start up a series of colleges (or a business school) and call them Stanford, Yale and Harvard and hand out diplomas and certificates that are similar to the ones that the more established institutions hand out?

The first part is silly.  Obviously that's a fraud, and in any event the proper analogy would be an individual champagne-maker labeling their products with the same brand name of another, better champagne-maker.

As for the second part--juris doctor (® Harvard Law School, 1890-2012)?