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Bo, his Wife, the Businessman and Murder

Started by Sheilbh, April 10, 2012, 12:28:34 PM

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Jacob

Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 11, 2012, 09:01:52 AM
Quote from: Jacob on April 11, 2012, 09:00:39 AM
Well that and the fact that China can go in a number of very different directions.

:lol: 

And yes, that is a condescending  :lol:

:hug:


Jacob

I read some comments. This one is an extended and rather colourful metaphor that made me think of languish:

Quote from: zhengshi3 发表评论于 2012-04-12 11:18:13Democracy and the rule of the people's law are dicks.
CCP officials are pussies.
Bo xilai is an asshole.

Pussies don't like dicks, because pussies get fucked by dicks. But dicks also fuck assholes: assholes that just want to shit on everything. Pussies may think they can deal with assholes their way. But the only thing that can fuck an asshole is a dick, with some balls. The problem with dicks is: they fuck too much or fuck when it isn't appropriate - and it takes a pussy to show them that. But sometimes, pussies can be so full of shit that they become assholes themselves... because pussies are an inch and half away from ass holes. I don't know much about this crazy, crazy world, but I do know this: If you don't let us fuck this asshole, we're going to have our dicks and pussies all covered in shit!

... I wonder if this metaphor is original, or whether it's just being reapplied from elsewhere. It's pretty evocative.

Fate

Quote from: Jacob on April 12, 2012, 01:45:19 PM
I read some comments. This one is an extended and rather colourful metaphor that made me think of languish:

Quote from: zhengshi3 发表评论于 2012-04-12 11:18:13Democracy and the rule of the people's law are dicks.
CCP officials are pussies.
Bo xilai is an asshole.

Pussies don't like dicks, because pussies get fucked by dicks. But dicks also fuck assholes: assholes that just want to shit on everything. Pussies may think they can deal with assholes their way. But the only thing that can fuck an asshole is a dick, with some balls. The problem with dicks is: they fuck too much or fuck when it isn't appropriate - and it takes a pussy to show them that. But sometimes, pussies can be so full of shit that they become assholes themselves... because pussies are an inch and half away from ass holes. I don't know much about this crazy, crazy world, but I do know this: If you don't let us fuck this asshole, we're going to have our dicks and pussies all covered in shit!

... I wonder if this metaphor is original, or whether it's just being reapplied from elsewhere. It's pretty evocative.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cV_q-mVAAA


Barrister

I don't go to youtube while at work, but I do know I've seen / heard that rant before.  Where is it from?
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

Fate


Barrister

Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

Sheilbh

I was thinking today that this is the first time I can remember reading things about different political factions within the Chinese leadership and different figures leading those factions.  Presumably it's always been there.  I was wondering if any of the Chinawatchers knew if the public knowledge of this was relatively recent or whether it had also always been there?  Did everyone know that X was a moderniser or did the projection of a unified leadership work more before social media and the internet?
Let's bomb Russia!

Jacob

I don't know, but it is my impression that it is more pronounced recently.

I think it's a combination of the fact that the current leaders are weaker than Deng was (and Deng really called the shots for a long time) and modern media and the internet.

There's always been rumour and speculation about the leadership, but it was much easier to control before Weibo and other social media.

Tonitrus

I was hoping to see some "Bo knows..." jokes in this thread.  :(

garbon

Quote from: Monoriu on April 11, 2012, 04:57:15 AM
In China, the wife doesn't give up her maiden name.  For example, Hilary will never be addressed as Hilary Clinton according to Chinese naming conventions. 

It is however acceptable for the wife to add her husband's surname to her own, as in this case.  It is actually quite popular in HK. 

Not the best example as she goes officially by Hillary Rodham Clinton, that middle being a maiden name not a middle name. :D
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

garbon

Quote from: Tonitrus on April 13, 2012, 01:02:32 AM
I was hoping to see some "Bo knows..." jokes in this thread.  :(

Make some then. :P
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

CountDeMoney

For Jacob:  they made it official

Quoteb]Bo Xilai's wife charged with murder in death of British businessman

BEIJING — Gu Kailai, the wife of deposed Politburo official Bo Xilai, and one of her household aides have been formally charged with "intentional homicide" in the case of a deceased British businessman, Neil Heywood, the official Xinhua news agency reported Thursday.

The brief Xinhua dispatch said Gu and the aide, Zhang Xiaojun, were charged in a court in Hefei, in Anhui province, after prosecutors interrogated them and spoke to their defense team. The two were arrested on suspicion of murder last spring, triggering what has become China's most dramatic political upheaval in more than two decades.

Xinhua, quoting unidentified investigators, alleged that Gu and Zhang poisoned Heywood after Gu and Heywood had a business conflict that also involved her son. The report said Gu believed Heywood was threatening her son.

"The facts of the two defendants' crime are clear, and the evidence is irrefutable and substantial," the Xinhua report said. "Therefore, the two defendants should be charged with intentional homicide."

There was no mention by Xinhua of the fate of Bo, who was considered a high flier in the Communist Party hierarchy until his abrupt dismissal as party boss of the city of Chongqing in March. Neither Bo nor his wife has been seen publicly in recent months.

Bo, once seemingly destined for a promotion to the powerful Politburo Standing Committee, apparently has been rendered persona non grata by his potential involvement in the murder case. The saga — unfolding as the Communist Party prepares for a once-in-a-decade leadership transition — has upended China's careful political choreography and has exposed infighting and rifts within the ruling party's top ranks.

Xinhua said the court in Hefei "will hold a trial on a day to be decided." Based on Chinese practice, it is likely to be soon. There was no explanation as to why Anhui province was selected for the prosecution, because the alleged crime took place in Chongqing. But politically sensitive cases are often moved to distant locations.

The son allegedly at the center of the scandal is not named in the report but is believed to be Bo Guagua, a recent graduate of Harvard University's Kennedy School of Government. He is believed to be in the United States.

"Worrying about Neil Heywood's threat to her son's personal security, Bogu Kailai along with Zhang Xiaojun, the other defendant, poisoned Neil Heywood to death," Xinhua alleged. (Since the beginning of the case, official announcements have referred to Gu Kailai by the surname "Bogu," combining Bo's name with her maiden name, Gu. The practice is not common in China but is sometimes used by Chinese abroad.)

Despite a wall of silence surrounding the case, senior Chinese officials speaking to diplomats, visiting academics and others have hinted that they wanted it settled before the opening this fall of the 18th Party Congress, which will select a new president and prime minister and fill seven vacant slots on the Politburo Standing Committee, which effectively runs the country.

One analyst of China's elite politics, Cheng Li of the Brookings Institution in Washington, noted that the timing of Thursday's announcement, just 24 hours before the opening of the London Olympics, would likely mean less public attention would be paid to the development here in China, where Bo maintains some popular support, and also in Britain, Heywood's native country.

The timing "will likely reduce some of the coverage internationally," Li said, as well as among China's active microblogging community. "Maybe 75 percent of the netizens will be turning to TV to look at the Olympics," he said.

Officials had previously suggested that Gu and the household servant would face severe judicial punishment in the Heywood killing. But there is uncertainty over how deeply Bo was involved or whether he would be punished by the courts or simply disciplined by the Communist Party.

Bo is a "princeling," the son of Communist Party veteran Bo Yibo and one of the party's few charismatic leaders. Even after his dramatic fall, he is believed to retain some residual popularity in Chongqing, where he is remembered for cleaning the streets of gangsters. He is also liked by China's small but vocal group of "new leftists," who revere Mao Zedong.

Gu, an accomplished lawyer who wrote a book on bringing successful civil lawsuits in the United States, is also a princeling. Her father was Gen. Gu Jingsheng, an early revolutionary who served as party chief in the Xinjiang region.

The saga began in February, when Wang Lijun, Bo's longtime police chief and right-hand man in Chongqing, took refuge in the U.S. consulate in the neighboring city of Chengdu.

Wang, fearing for his safety, carried with him a tale of murder and intrigue involving Gu and the Briton. After spending more than a day holed up at the consulate, Wang was escorted to Beijing by security officials. He has not been seen since.

There has been rampant speculation that Wang would be tried for treason this month.

Heywood was found dead in his Chongqing hotel room Nov. 15, and police initially said he died of heavy drinking.

The body was cremated before an autopsy was performed, but foreign media reports have been filled with speculation that Wang may have kept some hair samples or other evidence in hope of proving that Heywood was poisoned.[/quote]