Is Obama a better president than George W. Bush?

Started by Syt, April 09, 2012, 02:46:04 AM

Previous topic - Next topic

With well over 3 years of his reign complete, is O so far better than W?

I'm American, and Obama has done better than GWB so far.
25 (43.9%)
I'm American, and Obama has done worse than GWB so far.
5 (8.8%)
I'm American, and Obama has done neither better nor worse than GWB so far.
5 (8.8%)
I'm foreigner, and Obama has done better than GWB so far.
17 (29.8%)
I'm foreigner, and Obama has done worse than GWB so far.
2 (3.5%)
I'm foreigner, and Obama has done neither better nor worse than GWB so far.
3 (5.3%)

Total Members Voted: 57

Print
Go Down Pages1 2 3 4 5 ... 9
User actions

Syt

April 09, 2012, 02:46:04 AM


I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

The Brain

#1
April 09, 2012, 02:57:58 AM
A better Hitler? Doubtful.
Women want me. Men want to be with me.

Jaron

#2
April 09, 2012, 03:03:35 AM
Bush was our Hitler; Obama is our Stalin.
Winner of THE grumbler point.

Josquius

#3
April 09, 2012, 03:07:07 AM
Even despite the much worse situation; better.
██████
██████
██████

Eddie Teach

#4
April 09, 2012, 03:09:37 AM
Yes, but less effective unfortunately.
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

Siege

#5
April 10, 2012, 10:42:54 AM
Loser.


"All men are created equal, then some become infantry."

"Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't."

"Laissez faire et laissez passer, le monde va de lui même!"

derspiess

#6
April 10, 2012, 10:47:53 AM
No.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

garbon

#7
April 10, 2012, 10:51:33 AM
I'd say yes. Really just as ineffective (or effective given your point of view) but under Obama, I'd say that America's self-image and image to others has mildly improved.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Berkut

#8
April 10, 2012, 11:03:20 AM
Quote from: garbon on April 10, 2012, 10:51:33 AM
I'd say yes. Really just as ineffective (or effective given your point of view) but under Obama, I'd say that America's self-image and image to others has mildly improved.

WHile I think that is true, I am not sure it is for any really valid reasons.
"If you think this has a happy ending, then you haven't been paying attention."

select * from users where clue > 0
0 rows returned

crazy canuck

#9
April 10, 2012, 11:09:38 AM
Obama has not started any needless (or otherwise) wars.  Checkmate.

garbon

#10
April 10, 2012, 11:15:36 AM
Quote from: Berkut on April 10, 2012, 11:03:20 AM
Quote from: garbon on April 10, 2012, 10:51:33 AM
I'd say yes. Really just as ineffective (or effective given your point of view) but under Obama, I'd say that America's self-image and image to others has mildly improved.

WHile I think that is true, I am not sure it is for any really valid reasons.

Agreed but nonetheless appears a mark in favor of his presidency.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

grumbler

#11
April 10, 2012, 11:47:08 AM
Obama has avoided Dubya-level fuckups, and he doesn't sound like a moron, so I am inclined to like him more.  It's hard to say he is a "better President," though, since he has done very little since taking office.  BY this point in his first term, Dubya had gained the admiration of the world for letting OBL successfully attack the US and then forcefully responding to the attack, but had also gotten the US mired down in a war it could have won easily had an incompetent administration not fucked it up so badly.

By comparison, Obama hasn't been tested.  I don't think we will really be able to answer this question for another four years.  If we end up with a second four years as idle as the first four, then I think we will have to conclude that Obama was a nice guy who should never have been president, and thus inferior to the not-so-nice and not-so-bright guy who, nonetheless, grew into being a legit president.
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

Bayraktar!

Eddie Teach

#12
April 10, 2012, 11:51:44 AM
Quote from: grumbler on April 10, 2012, 11:47:08 AM
If we end up with a second four years as idle as the first four, then I think we will have to conclude that Obama was a nice guy who should never have been president, and thus inferior to the not-so-nice and not-so-bright guy who, nonetheless, grew into being a legit president.

I disagree, some of our better Presidents such as TR and Clinton have had fairly uneventful administrations.
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

crazy canuck

#13
April 10, 2012, 11:53:24 AM
The world could do with a few uneventful US administrations.  So far Obama is doing pretty well dealing with the Hawkish language from the Goptards over Iran.

edit: also Obama did very well to let the French take the lead over Lybia.  Not sure that would have been possible for W.

Neil

#14
April 10, 2012, 12:02:43 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 10, 2012, 11:09:38 AM
Obama has not started any needless (or otherwise) wars.  Checkmate.
Indeed.  Not engaging in mankind's greatest pursuit is a sign of inferiority.
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.
Print
Go Up Pages1 2 3 4 5 ... 9
User actions