George Galloway Set For Sensational Return To House of Commons ?

Started by mongers, March 29, 2012, 08:20:30 PM

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mongers


http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17549388

Whatever my personal dislike or suspicion of the guy, if this happens I think this is great news as it represents, excuse my language, a giant "Fuck You" to our governing classes.

Our politicians of most parties, need to understand just how disaffected large swathes of the general public are with current political discourse and the upper-middle class progressive/reactionary Tory agendas
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

mongers

He's won it with a majority of 10,000 votes - 18,000 respect party votes to 8,000 or so for the Labour party, who previously held the seat.
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

Scipio

Quote from: mongers on March 29, 2012, 08:20:30 PM

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17549388

Whatever my personal dislike or suspicion of the guy, if this happens I think this is great news as it represents, excuse my language, a giant "Fuck You" to our governing classes.

Our politicians of most parties, need to understand just how disaffected large swathes of the general public are with current political discourse and the upper-middle class progressive/reactionary Tory agendas
Isn't he the anti-semitic fuckwit?
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mongers

"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

Sheilbh

Quote from: Scipio on March 29, 2012, 08:36:35 PM
Isn't he the anti-semitic fuckwit?
Yeah.  Though in many ways that's the least of his sins.

QuoteOur politicians of most parties, need to understand just how disaffected large swathes of the general public are with current political discourse and the upper-middle class progressive/reactionary Tory agendas
That may be fair, but I live in his old seat and he did a shit job as an MP.  It's sad that, again, he'll be working part-time on behalf of one of the poorest constituencies in the country :(
Let's bomb Russia!

mongers

Yes but as the result demonstrates, people weren't voting for or against the need for a dutiful constituency MP, but were were sticking two fingers up to the mainstream political parties.

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And one thing this guy has is acute political antenna, he's sensed the general uneasy within the population, something as which the Tory posh-boy lead government seems unable to see, understand or empathies with.
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

Razgovory

When the Soviet Union fell we found we had to two kinds of commie sympathizers.  Those who believed in communism and its ideals and those who simply hated the West.  Galloway falls in the second category.  Anyone who stands against the US is his friend it seems.  No matter who they are.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Sheilbh

That gives him far too many ideals.  He's just a man desperately in need of a totalitarian teat.  Any'll serve.
Let's bomb Russia!

mongers

Quote from: Sheilbh on March 29, 2012, 09:22:21 PM
That gives him far too many ideals.  He's just a man desperately in need of a totalitarian teat.  Any'll serve.

But that doesn't stop him being the man of the moment; all very well for you to come up with nice intellectual reasons why he's a fraud and so forth, but the votes he's garnered across the whole constituency speak to a larger truth, that of rather serious public dissatisfaction with the ruling classes.

And what you and Raz are doing is making the same mistake that Cameron, Millband and the rent-boy have made, ignoring the groundswell of discontent and trying to discredit any opposition leadership. 

"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

Sheilbh

I can recognise that and still think the man who's garnered it is a knob who will hurt his constituency's interests and, if the experience of this area's anything to go by, alienate a lot of his supporters.

I agree on the discontent, that doesn't mean I'm happy Galloway's won.  I don't like him.  He's a bad MP and the areas he's represented in the past need someone better.
Let's bomb Russia!

Admiral Yi

I'm still having a hard time seeing mongers as a "Big England Tory" or whatever it was he called himself.

Razgovory

Quote from: mongers on March 29, 2012, 09:33:30 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on March 29, 2012, 09:22:21 PM
That gives him far too many ideals.  He's just a man desperately in need of a totalitarian teat.  Any'll serve.

But that doesn't stop him being the man of the moment; all very well for you to come up with nice intellectual reasons why he's a fraud and so forth, but the votes he's garnered across the whole constituency speak to a larger truth, that of rather serious public dissatisfaction with the ruling classes.

And what you and Raz are doing is making the same mistake that Cameron, Millband and the rent-boy have made, ignoring the groundswell of discontent and trying to discredit any opposition leadership.

I don't know anything about a groundswell of discontent in the UK.  I don't live there.  I do know that the guy is shills for some of the worst regimes in the world.  The American equivalent would be to elect David Duke to Congress to show Washington we are dissatisfied.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Richard Hakluyt

Some comfort for the Tories after a terrible week.

Though I would be interested to see a detailed breakdown of the demographics of Bradford west  :hmm:

I've found this :

http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/guide/seat-profiles/bradfordwest/

The figures are for 2001. It is an impoverished place and back in 2001 38% of the electors were muslim, I would imagine that percentage has gone up.

Josquius

He is certainly a fuckwit. The kind of idiot who thinks they're smart and predominate university socialist societied, scaring away any rational thinkers.
I saw his interview on the 10 O'Clock show a few weeks back, it was...horrific.
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Sheilbh

I'm not sure how good it is for the Tories.  This was one of their targets (not in the by-election but in 2010) in the attempt to move into Northern cities and get a more ethnically diverse parliamentary party, and they've been between 31-37% for the last few elections.

I can't find a better constituency guide than that one.

One interesting note is that the BNP didn't run a candidate, which is odd.  This is the sort of seat they normally target (they've run there in the last few elections) and their best chance is probably a by-election.  I wonder why they didn't field a candidate :mellow:
Let's bomb Russia!