Trayvon Martin case: use of Stand Your Ground law or pursuit of a black teen?

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11B4V

#525
March 28, 2012, 05:31:51 AM
Quote from: Phillip V on March 28, 2012, 05:27:43 AM
We need more restrictions on who can get a gun.

accusations of domestic violence not convicted
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

Phillip V

#526
March 28, 2012, 05:34:37 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on March 28, 2012, 05:31:51 AM
Quote from: Phillip V on March 28, 2012, 05:27:43 AM
We need more restrictions on who can get a gun.

accusations of domestic violence not convicted

He might have a bad credit score.

Caliga

#527
March 28, 2012, 05:35:01 AM
:yes: Dunno about Florida, but here if you are convicted of any felony or certain misdemeanors (including any misdemeanor involving domestic violence) you lose your CCDW if you have one.
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CountDeMoney

#528
March 28, 2012, 05:36:48 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on March 28, 2012, 05:31:51 AM
Quote from: Phillip V on March 28, 2012, 05:27:43 AM
We need more restrictions on who can get a gun.

accusations of domestic violence not convicted

So what happened?

CountDeMoney

#529
March 28, 2012, 05:39:24 AM
Quote from: Caliga on March 28, 2012, 05:35:01 AM
:yes: Dunno about Florida, but here if you are convicted of any felony or certain misdemeanors (including any misdemeanor involving domestic violence) you lose your CCDW if you have one.

Maryland has a piggyback law that, while the case is open, your weapon is seized IF it was observed at the residence, or was used during the course of the alleged threat. 
Then, you get it back when if the case is adjudicated in your favor.

Eddie Teach

#530
March 28, 2012, 05:40:29 AM
It was never a criminal case per the article. They just got restraining orders against each other.
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CountDeMoney

#531
March 28, 2012, 05:41:20 AM
QuoteIn 2005, Zimmerman, then 20, was arrested and charged with "resisting officer with violence" and "battery of law enforcement officer," both which are third-degree felonies. The charge was reduced to "resisting officer without violence" and then waived when he entered an alcohol education program.

As an officer who took more than one trip to the Emergency Room, watching the prosecutor reduce my injuries to "never happened" still pisses me off to no end.  Fucking lawyers.  And yeah, that means you too, BB.  You fucking whores.

CountDeMoney

#532
March 28, 2012, 05:41:41 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on March 28, 2012, 05:40:29 AM
It was never a criminal case per the article. They just got restraining orders against each other.

All restraining orders are civil matters.

11B4V

#533
March 28, 2012, 05:44:37 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 28, 2012, 05:36:48 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on March 28, 2012, 05:31:51 AM
Quote from: Phillip V on March 28, 2012, 05:27:43 AM
We need more restrictions on who can get a gun.

accusations of domestic violence not convicted

So what happened?

Phillip was stating more gun control off of accusations. When convicted stops them from getting a gun.
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

11B4V

#534
March 28, 2012, 05:45:33 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 28, 2012, 05:41:20 AM
QuoteIn 2005, Zimmerman, then 20, was arrested and charged with "resisting officer with violence" and "battery of law enforcement officer," both which are third-degree felonies. The charge was reduced to "resisting officer without violence" and then waived when he entered an alcohol education program.

As an officer who took more than one trip to the Emergency Room, watching the prosecutor reduce my injuries to "never happened" still pisses me off to no end.  Fucking lawyers.  And yeah, that means you too, BB.  You fucking whores.

Just had this happen to one of my officers.
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

CountDeMoney

#535
March 28, 2012, 05:47:50 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on March 28, 2012, 05:44:37 AM
Phillip was stating more gun control off of accusations.

And there's a bona fide reason to do that.  More than one DV suspect has been released, just to go get the handgun and blow the bitch away for calling the cops the night before.

11B4V

#536
March 28, 2012, 05:51:39 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 28, 2012, 05:47:50 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on March 28, 2012, 05:44:37 AM
Phillip was stating more gun control off of accusations.

And there's a bona fide reason to do that.  More than one DV suspect has been released, just to go get the handgun and blow the bitch away for calling the cops the night before.

Not disagreeing. Was not aware if he knew.
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

CountDeMoney

#537
March 28, 2012, 05:53:09 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on March 28, 2012, 05:51:39 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 28, 2012, 05:47:50 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on March 28, 2012, 05:44:37 AM
Phillip was stating more gun control off of accusations.

And there's a bona fide reason to do that.  More than one DV suspect has been released, just to go get the handgun and blow the bitch away for calling the cops the night before.

Not disagreeing. Was not aware if he knew.

Well, this is Florida.  If it involved the Sanford PD, sounds like he could have 4 DV convictions, and they'd still let him have his gun to stalk negroes in the dark.

Rasputin

#538
March 28, 2012, 06:07:16 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on March 27, 2012, 07:00:24 PM
Quote from: Rasputin on March 27, 2012, 05:42:34 PM
Quote from: derspiess on March 27, 2012, 03:32:27 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on March 27, 2012, 03:30:35 PM
Quote from: derspiess on March 27, 2012, 03:28:01 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on March 27, 2012, 03:19:04 PM
Zimmerman's actions are justified I suppose.  He saw the kid and recognized him as someone with multiple suspensions.  Martin was suspended because of having a screwdriver ( apparently that's a burglary tool), and Zimmerman had no other option but to shoot him.

Weak.

No shit.  The question is 'why did you post it, in the first place?'

And the answer is 'because I did not post that', dipshit.

dont feed the troll; raz gets off on changing what you actually post so he can defeat the straw man

Oh noes!  The Objectivist is mad!
:D not at all, I am making a very objective statement of my observations

I don't get any more mad at your silliness than I get any other silliness I hear throughout the day
Who is John Galt?

Rasputin

#539
March 28, 2012, 06:07:47 AM
Quote from: Caliga on March 28, 2012, 05:35:01 AM
:yes: Dunno about Florida, but here if you are convicted of any felony or certain misdemeanors (including any misdemeanor involving domestic violence) you lose your CCDW if you have one.
Yup
Who is John Galt?
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