Trayvon Martin case: use of Stand Your Ground law or pursuit of a black teen?

[derspiess]

One person was a wanna-be cop that made himself a Neighborhood Watch for a Neighborhood that didn't even have a Watch, who called 911 on a regular basis on darkies, had a gun and used it

Yeah, we knew all that shit from the get-go.

Then let's keep things in perspective, shall we?

I think that's advice we can all follow.

edit: I'm actually pulling an Obama here & mean "you" when I say "we"

[CountDeMoney]

Or if people want to jump to a particular conclusion.

Anyway, here is the main article I alluded to earlier:

You know, it is a very real statistical probability that not all black teens are gangsta-thug wanna-bes with 4 children and extensive arrest records. I mean, they're actually out there.

[derspiess]

Okay.

[Valmy]

Or if people want to jump to a particular conclusion.

Anyway, here is the main article I alluded to earlier:

Shooting somebody in public under suspicious circumstances, in my mind, warrants a full investigation and a trial.  I hope that is not too radical a conclusion to jump to.

[CountDeMoney]

Or if people want to jump to a particular conclusion.

Anyway, here is the main article I alluded to earlier:

Shooting somebody in public under suspicious circumstances, in my mind, warrants a full investigation and a trial.  I hope that is not too radical a conclusion to jump to.

Martin came after Zimmerman with a fetus.

[Sheilbh]

Anyway, here is the main article I alluded to earlier:

That's a bit of puff.  It doesn't say he's an angel so much that he's a 17 year old.  It mentions the suspension.

But I'm still not sure what you're talking about that shows him to not be a choirboy.

[derspiess]

Anyway, here is the main article I alluded to earlier:

That's a bit of puff.  It doesn't say he's an angel so much that he's a 17 year old.  It mentions the suspension.

It mentions his most recent suspension, yes.  The version I read last week (this article was updated yesterday) said it was for tardiness, which was incorrect.

But I'm still not sure what you're talking about that shows him to not be a choirboy.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2120504/Trayvon-Martin-case-He-suspended-times-caught-burglary-tool.html

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/cutline/trayvon-martin-shooting-details-emerge-facebook-twitter-accounts-180103647.html

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/26/2714778/thousands-expected-at-trayvon.html

[CountDeMoney]

  C'mon, man.  You need to do better than this.  Contrary to the daily emails you're receiving from the NRA, arresting Zimmerman will not result in taking all your guns away.

[Eddie Teach]

Martin came after Zimmerman with a fetus.

Unwise to bring a fetus to a gunfight.

[derspiess]

C'mon, man.  You need to do better than this.  Contrary to the daily emails you're receiving from the NRA, arresting Zimmerman will not result in taking all your guns away.

I have no problem with him being arrested and convicted if evidence clearly supports that conclusion.

FWIW, I do get the NRA emails on an account I don't check very frequently.  They tend to be repetitive.  I've just been too lazy to change my preferences.

[grumbler]

Yeah.  I don't get the race angle on this case from Zimmerman's perspective. 

Maybe because he says "fucking coons!" (or something much like that) under his breathe while on the phone with the dispatcher and talking about the fact that the "suspicious person" has disappeared?

It is possible that "coons" isn't the second word, but that's what I heard even before someone pointed it out in some comments on the tape.

There may not be a legit "race" angle on this, but there are at least two possible racism angles.

[Razgovory]

Zimmerman's actions are justified I suppose.  He saw the kid and recognized him as someone with multiple suspensions.  Martin was suspended because of having a screwdriver ( apparently that's a burglary tool), and Zimmerman had no other option but to shoot him.

[DontSayBanana]

This shows that America is a freer land than the UK.

In the UK, the police jails you for posting an offensive tweet about a black man. In the US, you go free despite shooting a black man to death.

A few of my Facebook friends have been circulating this Will Smith pic with a quote about how the chick who dumped flour on Kim Kardashian was immediately arrested while Zimmerman was let free.

[derspiess]

Zimmerman's actions are justified I suppose.  He saw the kid and recognized him as someone with multiple suspensions.  Martin was suspended because of having a screwdriver ( apparently that's a burglary tool), and Zimmerman had no other option but to shoot him.

Weak.

[DontSayBanana]

Zimmerman's actions are justified I suppose.  He saw the kid and recognized him as someone with multiple suspensions.  Martin was suspended because of having a screwdriver ( apparently that's a burglary tool), and Zimmerman had no other option but to shoot him.

I got suspended for having a screwdriver in my backpack back  in grade school.  It's a "weapon."  My argument that the pencil on the principal's desk would have been more effective didn't exactly fly.