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恥ずかしいセリフ 禁止

Started by Lettow77, May 10, 2012, 05:02:54 AM

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Quote from: Kolytsin on May 12, 2012, 01:46:19 PM
Also, if you actually give a fuck about learning the reality of the society you supposedly idealize, I recommend that you read "An Introduction to Japanese Society" by Yoshio Sugimoto.  Also, "Tokyo Vice" would help as well.  Anime/Manga gives a very narrow and idealized representation.

Lettow care about the "realities" of any society?  You must be new here.

Razgovory

The further away from Anime Japanese society is the more I would like it.  Still, I wouldn't want to live there.  Since I know very little about East Asia in general, I don't know if I'd even want to visit.  I wouldn't know what to see.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Eddie Teach

Quote from: Lettow77 on May 12, 2012, 12:08:24 AM
I'll try to avoid becoming involved with a Japanese woman as well, due to how dim a view some Japanese might take of that.

And cause vaginas are icky, right?
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

Lettow77

  The principal attraction in becoming involved with a woman is rather something like being able to come home to vegetables being cut on a chopping board and feeling that you are cared for, and have something to work for- the reassuring social contract of a kept home in exchange for the career to sustain it. Someone to share thoughts, plans and meaningless conversation with. A relationship has the potential to be the meaning sought in life, a self-sustaining thing that wraps the rest of life around it and provides a sense of purpose. Sexuality is a peripheral matter, and not in a position to greatly add or detract from the value of the above.

Unfortunately, the whole lot of it is nothing more than a dream- as said, it is something to be avoided.
It can't be helped...We'll have to use 'that'

Josquius

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You give Lettow stick but...he might survive here.
Sure, there are lots of stories of nerds who show up, find women aren't falling in their lap and they aren't living in anime land, get sad and go home.
But a lot of nerdy types love it too. I know one girl who is quite happy here in her weird little world of buying large amounts of fan made pornographic comics.


Lettow and your idea of what a relationship should be: Fat chance in the west but in Japan such a thing actually can happen. A lot more traditional marriages here. And hey, you've no interest in sex, you only need to do it the once to plant your seed and you're set to have a regular Japanese marriage.
And not too many Japanese take a dim view of a woman going out with a white guy. Especially a teacher.

QuoteVisitors are more than welcome in Japan.  Immigrants are not.  Gaining access and acceptance in Japanese society is very, very difficult.  Third-generation Koreans sometimes find it hard, let alone the Brazilians.

Yeah, one messed up thing I hear about Japan: There is no dinstinction between Japanese citizenship and ethnicity in the census.
Which does mask how many immigrants there actually are, it isn't the totally homogenous country people believe.
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Lettow77

 Tyr, thanks for the encouragement! I really mean it. I bought my ticket to Tokyo today, and have been worried. If it doesn't work out in Japan, that's likely the end of the line for me. I wasn't born into optimism, but have been trying to un-learn the cynicism and negativity of a lifetime. I want to believe I can get by with a positive attitude, willingness to work, and humble expectations.  I want to believe that things will work out in the strange land I think about so much but have never been to, which has so little desire for foreigners to settle there as I intend.

I'll do my best, but in the vacuum of loneliness the slightest external suggestions can have disproportionate influence. As such, the friendly words of someone already there mean an enormous deal to me. Thank you kindly.
It can't be helped...We'll have to use 'that'

Kolytsin

I wish you good luck as well and offer my support, if you so desire it.  But I urge you to consider the answer to this question before you arrive in the land of Wa: "What if Japanese society does not live up to my expectations but reveals itself to be a different, multi-faceted diamond altogether?  Would I consider Western influences to be a stain on the "pure" Japanese society or could I accept them as an integral part of Japanese society today?  Will I still attempt to integrate with and accept such a society or would I return to America in defeat?"

In my experience, those foreigners with the weakest connection to the society of their homelands often are the most satisfied residents of this country.