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"Why I quit Goldman Sachs"

Started by Barrister, March 15, 2012, 03:42:16 PM

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Barrister

Surprised Tim hasn't started a thread on this:

QuoteNo morality, no integrity, and no future: Why I quit Goldman Sachs after almost twelve years
By Greg Smith
PUBLISHED: 23:30 GMT, 14 March 2012 | UPDATED: 08:38 GMT, 15 March 2012

Former Goldman Sachs executive director GREG SMITH explains why he has fallen out of love with a bank whose culture has all but disappeared, and no which longer puts the interests of its clients first.


Disillusioned: Former Goldman Sachs executive Greg smith has left the bank after nearly twelve years
Today is my last day at Goldman Sachs. After almost 12 years at the firm – first as a summer intern during university, then in New York for ten years, and now in London – I believe I have worked here long enough to understand the trajectory of its culture, its people and its identity. And I can honestly say that the environment now is as toxic and destructive as I have ever seen it.

To put the problem in the simplest terms, the interests of the client continue to be sidelined in the way the firm operates and thinks about making money. Goldman Sachs is one of the world's largest and most important investment banks and it is too integral to global finance to continue to act this way.

The firm has veered so far from the place I joined right out of college that I can no longer in good conscience say that I identify with what it stands for.

It might sound surprising to a sceptical public, but culture was always a vital part of Goldman Sachs's success. It revolved around teamwork, integrity, a spirit of humility, and always doing right by our clients.

The culture was the secret sauce that made this place great and allowed us to earn our clients' trust for 143 years. It wasn't just about making money; this alone will not sustain a firm for so long. It had something to do with pride and belief in the organisation.

I am sad to say that I look around today and see virtually no trace of the culture that made me love working for this firm for many years. I no longer have the pride, or the belief.

But this was not always the case.

For more than a decade I recruited and mentored candidates through our gruelling interview process. I was selected as one of ten people (out of a firm of more than 30,000) to appear on our recruiting video, which is played on every college campus we visit around the world.

In 2006 I managed the summer intern programme in sales and trading in New York for the 80 college students who made the cut, out of the thousands who applied.

I knew it was time to leave when I realised I could no longer look students in the eye and tell them what a great place this was to work.

When the history books are written about Goldman Sachs, they may reflect that the current chief executive officer, Lloyd C. Blankfein, and the president, Gary D. Cohn, lost hold of the firm's culture on their watch. I truly believe that this decline in the firm's moral fibre represents the single most serious threat to its long-run survival.

  Losing control: Goldman Sachs's culture has veered off course under the control of CEO Lloyd Blanfien (left) and President Gary Cohn (right)

Over the course of my career I have had the privilege of advising two of the largest hedge funds on the planet, five of the largest asset managers in the United States, and three of the most prominent sovereign wealth funds in the Middle East and Asia.

My clients have a total asset base of more than $1trillion. I have always taken a lot of pride in advising my clients to do what I believe is right for them, even if it means less money for the firm. This view is becoming increasingly unpopular at Goldman Sachs. Another sign that it was time to leave.

How did we get here? The firm changed the way it thought about leadership. Leadership used to be about ideas, setting an example and doing the right thing. Today, if you make enough money for the firm (and are not currently an axe murderer) you will be promoted into a position of influence. What are three quick ways to become a leader in the firm?

a) Persuade your clients to invest in the stocks or other products that Goldman Sachs is trying to get rid of because they are not seen as having a lot of potential profit.

b) Get your clients – some of whom are sophisticated, and some of whom aren't – to trade whatever will bring the biggest profit to Goldman. (Call me old-fashioned, but I don't like selling my clients a product that is wrong for them.)

c) Find yourself sitting in a seat where your job is to trade any opaque product with a three-letter acronym.

Making money: The firm's focus has shifted from how to help clients, to how to exploit them
I attended sales meetings where not one single minute was spent asking questions about how we could help clients. It was purely about how we could make the most possible money out of them.

If you were an alien from Mars and sat in on one of these meetings, you would believe that a client's success or progress was not part of the thought process at all.

It makes me ill how callously people talk about ripping off their clients. Over the last 12 months I have seen five different managing directors refer to their own clients as 'muppets', sometimes over internal e-mail. I mean, come on. Integrity? It is eroding.

I don't know of any illegal behaviour, but will people pitch lucrative and complicated products to clients even if they are not the simplest investments or the ones most directly aligned with the client's goals? Absolutely. Every day, in fact.

It astounds me how few people in senior management get a basic truth: If clients don't trust you they will eventually stop doing business with you. It doesn't matter how smart you are.

The most common question I got from junior analysts about derivatives [an investment 'derived' from share performance] was: 'How much money did we make off the client?' It bothers me every time I hear such a comment, because it was a clear reflection of what they were observing from their leaders about the way they should behave.
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Now project ten years into the future: You don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure out that the junior analyst sitting quietly in the corner of the room hearing about 'muppets', 'ripping eyeballs out' and 'getting paid' doesn't exactly turn into a model citizen.

When I was a first-year analyst I didn't know where the loo was, or how to tie my shoelaces. I was taught to be concerned with learning the ropes, finding out what a derivative was, understanding finance, getting to know our clients and what motivated them, learning how they defined success and what we could do to help them get there.

My proudest moments in life – getting a full scholarship to go from South Africa to Stanford University, being selected as a Rhodes Scholar national finalist, winning a bronze medal for table tennis at the Maccabiah Games in Israel, known as the Jewish Olympics – have all come through hard work, with no short-cuts.

Goldman Sachs today has become too much about short-cuts and not enough about achievement. It just doesn't feel right to me any more.

I hope this can be a wake-up call to the board of directors. Make the client the focal point of your business again. Without clients you will not make money. In fact, you will not exist.

Weed out the morally bankrupt people, no matter how much money they make for the firm. And get the culture right again, so people want to work here for the right reasons. People who care only about making money will not sustain this firm – or the trust of its clients – for very much longer.

© (2012) The New York Times
(Distributed by The New York Times Syndicate)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2115156/Greg-Smith-resignation-letter-New-York-Times-Why-I-quit-Goldman-Sachs.html#ixzz1pDiMeY50

(for some reason I couldn't find the original NYT link - but here it the entire story reprinted)
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

CountDeMoney

Yeah, it's been all over the news today.


Obviously has an ax to grind (read: bonus wasn't big enough, obvious Defeatocrat, insert your FOXNews excuse here).

Barrister

I have my serious doubts that GS of 12 years ago was such a place of sunshine and light.

Also, another article on this lead me to a Rolling stone Article, in which the first two lines read "The first thing you need to know about Goldman Sachs is that it's everywhere. The world's most powerful investment bank is a great vampire squid wrapped around the face of humanity, relentlessly jamming its blood funnel into anything that smells like money." :lol:

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-great-american-bubble-machine-20100405
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

The Minsky Moment

QuoteMy proudest moments in life – getting a full scholarship to go from South Africa to Stanford University, being selected as a Rhodes Scholar national finalist, winning a bronze medal for table tennis at the Maccabiah Games in Israel, known as the Jewish Olympics – have all come through hard work, with no short-cuts

:rolleyes:
The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson

Barrister

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on March 15, 2012, 03:52:17 PM
QuoteMy proudest moments in life – getting a full scholarship to go from South Africa to Stanford University, being selected as a Rhodes Scholar national finalist, winning a bronze medal for table tennis at the Maccabiah Games in Israel, known as the Jewish Olympics – have all come through hard work, with no short-cuts

:rolleyes:

Yeah, that line was cringe-worthy.

But the overall assessment of GS (or indeed IB in general)?  Any thoughts?  You're a little closer to the action than I am.
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

CountDeMoney

Quote from: Barrister on March 15, 2012, 03:53:48 PM
But the overall assessment of GS (or indeed IB in general)?  Any thoughts?  You're a little closer to the action than I am.

Don't need a ringside seat to know what GS has been up to for a very long time.

Martinus

Are there non-Jews in Goldman Sachs? Honest question.

citizen k

Quote from: Martinus on March 15, 2012, 04:14:58 PM
Are there non-Jews in Goldman Sachs? Honest question.

No it's not. You know damn well there are.


Barrister

Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

citizen k

Lookout Marty, you're polackness is showing.


Ed Anger

Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive

citizen k

Quote from: Ed Anger on March 15, 2012, 04:29:51 PM
Pogrom Polly wants an answer.

Is he going to "round them up" or something?


Admiral Yi

What kind of clients is this guy talking about?  Do investment banks in general or Goldman in particular have signficant wealth management businesses I'm not aware of?

garbon

What was annoying is when this got e-mailed out to everyone in the office and then people responded.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Ed Anger

Quote from: citizen k on March 15, 2012, 04:42:15 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 15, 2012, 04:29:51 PM
Pogrom Polly wants an answer.

Is he going to "round them up" or something?

He can pretend in the tub. He can round up all the goldman sachs ducks for 'relocation'.
Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive