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Started by Siege, May 01, 2009, 09:50:49 PM

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Quote from: Siege on May 01, 2009, 09:50:49 PM
What's Australia's population?
30 millions, right?

How can they afford 12 submarines and a 100 new planes?
Their land forces are much smaller than those of other countries. I guess that allows them to invest overproportionally into aircraft and ships.

Slargos

Makes perfect sense. They don't have the manpower to properly defend against a land invasion by most of their massively overpopulated neighbours who have countless lives to throw away as cannonfodder.

Their first and last line of defense must thus be the ocean.

DisturbedPervert

Quote from: Slargos on May 02, 2009, 08:30:02 AM
Their first and last line of defense must thus be the ocean.

Yeap.  That ocean is the only thing keeping a hundred million Bmollsons out.

Grey Fox

I'm sure the fact that half the country is a desert & doesn't have much roads crossing it also has something to do.
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Quote from: Alatriste on May 02, 2009, 03:10:52 AM
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on May 02, 2009, 02:26:08 AM
Hopefully some of those F-35s will be the carrier version.  :outback:

Well, the Australians bought to us two small aircraft carriers designed to be JSF-capable (27,000 tons each). It seems only logical to buy F-35s to equip them when the time comes. I suppose Great Britain, Spain and Italy will do the same to replace their Harriers.   

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Carlos_(LHD1)

I think those kind of ships are so neat. Part carrier, part amphibious assault ship. The more, the merrier, IMO. Even South Korea's got a amphib assault ship that could, theoretically, carry VSTOL aircraft.
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Quote from: Tyr on May 02, 2009, 07:35:56 AM
I dunno...New Zealand is hardly great

They have fantastic rugby, and the highest rate of alcoholism among English-speaking nations.

jimmy olsen

Quote from: Neil on May 02, 2009, 07:43:52 AM
Quote from: Tyr on May 02, 2009, 07:35:56 AM
I dunno...New Zealand is hardly great and Ireland's though itself quite insignificant had a huge effect on the development of the anglosphere.
New Zealand is a fascinating place, and the people are loyal to the anglosphere, if a bit soft.
It should merge with Australia as provided by Australia's Constitution.
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Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on May 02, 2009, 11:39:36 AM
Quote from: Alatriste on May 02, 2009, 03:10:52 AM
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on May 02, 2009, 02:26:08 AM
Hopefully some of those F-35s will be the carrier version.  :outback:

Well, the Australians bought to us two small aircraft carriers designed to be JSF-capable (27,000 tons each). It seems only logical to buy F-35s to equip them when the time comes. I suppose Great Britain, Spain and Italy will do the same to replace their Harriers.   

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Carlos_(LHD1)

I think those kind of ships are so neat. Part carrier, part amphibious assault ship. The more, the merrier, IMO. Even South Korea's got a amphib assault ship that could, theoretically, carry VSTOL aircraft.

Tons of nations have been building (and buying) these things lately. By the way, AFAIK these Australian units, unlike the Spanish Juanca they are based on, are not intended to handle fixed wing aircraft, just helicopters and amphibious craft.

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Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 02, 2009, 12:21:17 PM
Quote from: Neil on May 02, 2009, 07:43:52 AM
Quote from: Tyr on May 02, 2009, 07:35:56 AM
I dunno...New Zealand is hardly great and Ireland's though itself quite insignificant had a huge effect on the development of the anglosphere.
New Zealand is a fascinating place, and the people are loyal to the anglosphere, if a bit soft.
It should merge with Australia as provided by Australia's Constitution.

Why? they disbanded their own airforce and hide behind the australians and the ANZUS alliance. They get the effect of the 100 fighters without actually having to pay for them.
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Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 02, 2009, 12:21:17 PM
It should merge with Australia as provided by Australia's Constitution.
Why should it do that?
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Fireblade

Well, at least they have the good sense not to name those ugly little tin cans after shitty (i.e.: Republican) Presidents like we do.

Where is the U.S.S. William J. Clinton?  :mad:

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Quote from: Slargos on May 02, 2009, 08:30:02 AM
Makes perfect sense. They don't have the manpower to properly defend against a land invasion by most of their massively overpopulated neighbours who have countless lives to throw away as cannonfodder.

Their first and last line of defense must thus be the ocean.

logistics. If Asia attacked with hordes, they would have a hard time crossing the central desert into the more valuable areas. it would break down much like the Italian offensive into Egypt from Libya.

the best strategy would be rope a dope. let them land in the North and capture Darwin. then use navy, airpower and highly mobile task forces to contain them in that area of operations and have them deal with the headaches of provisioning too many men that can't go on the offense anyway.
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Siege

I don't think the chinese have the ability to land more than 20 000 men at a time.
I mean, Taiwan is a hell of a lot closer than Australia...

What's the latest report on the chinese troop-transport capabilities?


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Quote from: saskganesh on May 03, 2009, 11:19:42 AM
Quote from: Slargos on May 02, 2009, 08:30:02 AM
Makes perfect sense. They don't have the manpower to properly defend against a land invasion by most of their massively overpopulated neighbours who have countless lives to throw away as cannonfodder.

Their first and last line of defense must thus be the ocean.

logistics. If Asia attacked with hordes, they would have a hard time crossing the central desert into the more valuable areas. it would break down much like the Italian offensive into Egypt from Libya.

the best strategy would be rope a dope. let them land in the North and capture Darwin. then use navy, airpower and highly mobile task forces to contain them in that area of operations and have them deal with the headaches of provisioning too many men that can't go on the offense anyway.

A better defense:


Siege

#29
You are a retard!

err, I mean, you are a defense!


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