UK pretends it still has a navy; "Right wot's all this then", says Admiralty

Started by CountDeMoney, February 01, 2012, 01:25:31 AM

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CountDeMoney

Quote from: Ideologue on February 01, 2012, 03:11:11 PM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on February 01, 2012, 11:56:40 AM
They need to get a majority of the Falkland Islanders to want to be a part of Argentina, then they will get the islands.

Wrong.  As long as one person on the Falklands wants to remain British, it is Britain's duty to defend him or her with the utmost necessary force, as it is America's duty to support, and fight alongside them if need be.

Fuck that, you Rio Treaty violating motherfucker.

Admiral Yi

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on February 01, 2012, 03:27:47 PM
The problem here is not "the public" - it is a narrow and vocal interest group that has held the policy hostage.

It's a narrow and vocal interest group who's antipathy to the Castro regime is shared to a lesser degree by a large swath of the general population.


CountDeMoney

Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 01, 2012, 03:30:52 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on February 01, 2012, 03:27:47 PM
The problem here is not "the public" - it is a narrow and vocal interest group that has held the policy hostage.

It's a narrow and vocal interest group who's antipathy to the Castro regime is shared to a lesser degree by a large swath of the general population.

A narrow and vocal interest group that still has a shitload of Bautista money from when Madre y Padre came over in '60.
The larger swath of the general population has been drinking the same anti-commie Kool-Aid since Kennedy.

Valmy

Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 01, 2012, 03:29:43 PM
Fuck that, you Rio Treaty violating motherfucker.

The Rio Treaty said nothing about aiding aggressive conquest -_-
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

CountDeMoney


Razgovory

Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 01, 2012, 03:05:38 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on February 01, 2012, 02:51:47 PM
Does the whole US public actually strongly support the present policy?

Does a majority of the US public strongly support changing the policy?

QuoteI would think the valuing freedom would include ideals like freedom to travel and freedom to trade, invest, etc.

Cuba can grant those rights too while they're at it. :P




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http://www.gallup.com/poll/117829/americans-steady-backing-friendlier-cuba-relations.aspx  Yep.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

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CountDeMoney

I just want a taste of the nightlife.  Johnny Olaf knows this place.

Razgovory

Quote from: Valmy on February 01, 2012, 01:00:30 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 01, 2012, 12:59:28 PM
And if the question were should we slap an embargo on them starting now your argument would be valid and we would not.  But to change an existing policy you need some gestures from the other guys.

What was Vietnam's big gesture?  Freedom Fries for all?

China's was a willingness to kill lots of students with tanks.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Admiral Yi

Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 01, 2012, 03:45:20 PM
I just want a taste of the nightlife.  Johnny Olaf knows this place.

I've read that if you fly to Mexico first they can work out a no visa stamp deal.

Josephus

How did this become about Cuba all of a sudden?


Oh, that reminds me...gotta buy suntan lotion. Heading there soon.
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 01, 2012, 03:47:35 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 01, 2012, 03:45:20 PM
I just want a taste of the nightlife.  Johnny Olaf knows this place.

I've read that if you fly to Mexico first they can work out a no visa stamp deal.

Actually, upon your arrival to Cuba, the Cubans are more than happy to give you a separate card insert instead of a passport stamp.  Because they care, and they don't want you charged with a victimless crime by Los Federales.

HVC

Quote from: Josephus on February 01, 2012, 03:48:22 PM
How did this become about Cuba all of a sudden?


Oh, that reminds me...gotta buy suntan lotion. Heading there soon.
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Ideologue

Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 01, 2012, 03:29:43 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on February 01, 2012, 03:11:11 PM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on February 01, 2012, 11:56:40 AM
They need to get a majority of the Falkland Islanders to want to be a part of Argentina, then they will get the islands.

Wrong.  As long as one person on the Falklands wants to remain British, it is Britain's duty to defend him or her with the utmost necessary force, as it is America's duty to support, and fight alongside them if need be.

Fuck that, you Rio Treaty violating motherfucker.

The Rio Treaty sucks.  Monroe Doctrine sucks.
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: Josephus on February 01, 2012, 03:48:22 PM
Oh, that reminds me...gotta buy suntan lotion. Heading there soon.

Stop supporting universal health care.

Razgovory

Maybe the US could make the first step.  Like giving up Posada.  You know, the guy that blew up a Cuban airliner.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017