Reading A History Of Your Own Country Written By A Foreigner.

Started by mongers, January 31, 2012, 04:01:30 PM

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mongers

Quote from: Josephus on January 31, 2012, 05:21:00 PM
Is anyone outside your "county" a foreigner? :hmm:

:D

Just noticed the typo, and no outside my county no, outside 'Wessex' probably.  :)
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ulmont

Quote from: Maximus on February 01, 2012, 12:10:34 PM
Quote from: Tamas on February 01, 2012, 08:22:13 AM
there is a vast difference: you are not giving the state the power to kill people.
The state has the power to kill people. That's the definition of a state.

That's kind of an oversimplification on the monopoly on the legitimate use of force inside its borders.

Maximus


grumbler

Quote from: Monoriu on February 01, 2012, 04:38:11 AM
For subjects like the Chinese theatre in WWII, I very much prefer to read material written by foreigners.  They are usually much more objective and neutral than Chinese ones.  The Chinese books tend to (a) overstate the accomplishments of Chinese forces and (b) take obvious sides between the nationalists and communists, and blame each other. 

Have you seen the PBS video The Tank Man? http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/tankman/

About 10% of my sophomore World History class each year is from the PRC, and, year after year, they are absolutely blown away by it.
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: DGuller on February 12, 2012, 06:35:31 PM
I don't think foreigners are that interested in US.

That must explain how few of them are here.

HisMajestyBOB

Quote from: grumbler on February 11, 2012, 10:22:29 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on February 01, 2012, 04:38:11 AM
For subjects like the Chinese theatre in WWII, I very much prefer to read material written by foreigners.  They are usually much more objective and neutral than Chinese ones.  The Chinese books tend to (a) overstate the accomplishments of Chinese forces and (b) take obvious sides between the nationalists and communists, and blame each other. 

Have you seen the PBS video The Tank Man? http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/tankman/

About 10% of my sophomore World History class each year is from the PRC, and, year after year, they are absolutely blown away by it.

Not surprising.
I can't even view that link here. <_<
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: grumbler on February 11, 2012, 10:22:29 PM
Have you seen the PBS video The Tank Man? http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/tankman/

About 10% of my sophomore World History class each year is from the PRC, and, year after year, they are absolutely blown away by it.

Teaching them early that there's no such thing as happy endings, huh?

DGuller

Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 13, 2012, 07:44:32 AM
Quote from: grumbler on February 11, 2012, 10:22:29 PM
Have you seen the PBS video The Tank Man? http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/tankman/

About 10% of my sophomore World History class each year is from the PRC, and, year after year, they are absolutely blown away by it.

Teaching them early that there's no such thing as happy endings, huh?
Teaching students about happy endings is how teachers get in trouble, Seedy.

grumbler

Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 13, 2012, 07:44:32 AM
Teaching them early that there's no such thing as happy endings, huh?

Teaching them early that what their government is hiding from them includes interesting stories.  Makes 'em want to look for more.
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Quote from: DGuller on February 13, 2012, 09:22:23 AM

Teaching students about happy endings is how teachers get in trouble, Seedy.

I think teaching students about happy endings is par for the course in Asia.
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derspiess

Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 31, 2012, 06:06:05 PM
Didn't de Tocqueville do that already, Mongers?

Ditto.  And freakishly, a lot of what he wrote nearly 200 years ago is still applicable.
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