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Started by Jacob, January 31, 2012, 02:50:03 PM

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In a fight between the English and the Mongols in the early 1200s, who would win?

The English
3 (7.5%)
The Mongols
25 (62.5%)
Fuck you and your alt history Timmy
12 (30%)

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Siege

Quote from: Grey Fox on February 01, 2012, 08:55:06 AM
Fuck that question.

How many m50 wielding soldiers would it take to destroy the Mongols horde?

What's an M-50?



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Razgovory

Even if you are right you are talking about a group of fortification in a small part of Iran.  I'm talking about hundreds of fortifications across an entire continent.  The numerous invasions after the initial one that did not claim territory indicates to me not that that they had no desire to take these lands, but the inability to do.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

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Mr.Penguin

Quote from: Siege on February 02, 2012, 10:07:35 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on February 01, 2012, 08:55:06 AM
Fuck that question.

How many m50 wielding soldiers would it take to destroy the Mongols horde?

What's an M-50?

A .45 acp submachine gun produced in limited numbers back in 1940, for the US Army?...  :huh:
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Razgovory

For some reason I keep think of some Swedish SMG.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Mr.Penguin

Quote from: Razgovory on February 03, 2012, 06:56:15 AM
For some reason I keep think of some Swedish SMG.

Well, there is also classical Danish Madsen M/50 submachine gun...
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The Brain

Quote from: Razgovory on February 03, 2012, 06:56:15 AM
For some reason I keep think of some Swedish SMG.

I can't believe I haven't fired that bad boy in 15 years.
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Grey Fox

I was probably thinking of the m-60 but we can use the Reising submachine gun too.
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Razgovory

Quote from: Mr.Penguin on February 03, 2012, 07:12:57 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 03, 2012, 06:56:15 AM
For some reason I keep think of some Swedish SMG.

Well, there is also classical Danish Madsen M/50 submachine gun...

That might be it.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Siege

Quote from: Grey Fox on February 03, 2012, 07:35:41 AM
I was probably thinking of the m-60 but we can use the Reising submachine gun too.

I think you were thinking of the M2 Browning .50 MG
Belt fed, .50 cal machinegun?
That would stop horse cavalry before getting within bow range.

Submachine guns have a very short range and are notoriously unaccuarate.


"All men are created equal, then some become infantry."

"Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't."

"Laissez faire et laissez passer, le monde va de lui même!"


Fireblade

Modern day IDF vs Mongol horde: Who wins?

I believe that they would have ripped them off within 5 minutes and given them a bad deal for all their horses and bows.

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Viking

Quote from: Fireblade on February 03, 2012, 01:55:40 PM
Modern day IDF vs Mongol horde: Who wins?

I believe that they would have ripped them off within 5 minutes and given them a bad deal for all their horses and bows.

Crushing IDF victory in the field leading to UN ceasefire saving the mongols from the consequences of their genocidal actions effectively freezing conflict for three generations. Who wins? Nobody.
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A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.