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Started by mongers, January 20, 2012, 04:47:13 PM

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mongers

Does your country have a national energy policy ?

If so what is it, if not should it have one ?


Looking into consumption of energy, and ignoring the usual shrill stuff about 'peak oil' on the web, there certainly some oddities out there, in amongst the more sensible stuff, like why does Germany have 43.5% of total world solar power installation, wouldn't it be more efficient if most of that were somewhere else, perhaps somewhere sunnier ??
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Yes, we do.
It was conceived, written and executed by Haliburton, HAL on the Dow Jones , currently trading at $36.20 at today's close.

mongers

Right, also know as the 'Thelma & Louise' policy.
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derspiess

Do we need one?  If so, what should it be?  And would NEP be dictated by the Central Committee?
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Valmy

Quote from: derspiess on January 20, 2012, 05:52:18 PM
Do we need one?  If so, what should it be?  And would NEP be dictated by the Central Committee?

Well we have one.  It is just half-hazard and not aimed at achieving any goal really.  Alot of our incentives are contradictory.  I would rather we scrap it and let it run organically or scrap it and put together a more efficient policy.
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I vote for a whole-hazard policy.  ALL RISK, ALL THE TIME!

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CountDeMoney

Quote from: Valmy on January 20, 2012, 05:53:53 PM
Quote from: derspiess on January 20, 2012, 05:52:18 PM
Do we need one?  If so, what should it be?  And would NEP be dictated by the Central Committee?

Well we have one.  It is just half-hazard and not aimed at achieving any goal really. 

It has a goal.  It's goal is increasing shareholder value.

mongers

#9
Some stats for the mix, all figures 2010 :

US proven Oil reserves -  3700 million tonnes

R/P ration (res/production) - 11.3 years

US annual Oil production - 339.1 million tonnes

US annual Oil consumption - 850.0 million tonnes

Notional Oil imports - 510.9 million tonnes ( or 11.7 million barrels per day)


US Proven Gas reserves - 7.7 trillion cubic metres.

R/P ration (res/production) - 12.6 years

US annual Gas production - 556.8 million tonnes oil equiv.

US annual Gas consumption -  621.0 million tonnes oil equiv.

Nuclear - consumption - 192.2 million tonnes oil equiv.

(up around 5% over 2001)

Hydroelectricity - consumption  - 58.8 million tonnes oil equiv.

(in decline from mid 70s and mid/late 90s peaks of around 75 and 80 mill resp)

Other renewable - - consumption - 39.1 million tonnes oil equiv.

Biofuels production -  25. 351 million tonnes oil equiv.


US leads the world in geothermal energy production - 50% greater than the Philippines.

US has 6.3 % of total world installed solar PV capacity, ahead of Czech republic but behind Italy.

US has 20.2% of total world wind generation capacity, though Germany and Spain combined beat this by around 3-4%.

Edit:
forgot King Coal:

US proven Coal reserves - 23,7295 million tonnes

R/P ration (res/production) - 241 years !

US annual Coal production - 552.2 million tonnes oil equiv.
(broadly unchanged since late 80s)

US annual Coal consumption - 524.6 million tonnes oil equiv.
(slightly down from late 90s highs)
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Admiral Yi

Quote from: mongers on January 20, 2012, 04:47:13 PM
Does your country have a national energy policy ?

If the question is does my country have policies on energy, the answer is duh, of course.

If the question is does my country publish a document entitled "US National Energy Policy," the answer is: who cares?

If the question is not a question but rather a preamble to your discourse on faulty energy policies, the response is that's not a very effective intro.

mongers

Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 20, 2012, 06:41:26 PM
Quote from: mongers on January 20, 2012, 04:47:13 PM
Does your country have a national energy policy ?

If the question is does my country have policies on energy, the answer is duh, of course.

If the question is does my country publish a document entitled "US National Energy Policy," the answer is: who cares?

If the question is not a question but rather a preamble to your discourse on faulty energy policies, the response is that's not a very effective intro.

So you're advocating sustained efforts to increase US agricultural waste biomass production.
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CountDeMoney

Careful, Mongers!  He's armed with Exxon stock!

Admiral Yi

Quote from: mongers on January 20, 2012, 06:45:47 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 20, 2012, 06:41:26 PM
Quote from: mongers on January 20, 2012, 04:47:13 PM
Does your country have a national energy policy ?

If the question is does my country have policies on energy, the answer is duh, of course.

If the question is does my country publish a document entitled "US National Energy Policy," the answer is: who cares?

If the question is not a question but rather a preamble to your discourse on faulty energy policies, the response is that's not a very effective intro.

So you're advocating sustained efforts to increase US agricultural waste biomass production.

Why do you think Plato wrote the Bible? :unsure:

Ideologue

Quote from: derspiess on January 20, 2012, 05:52:18 PM
Do we need one?  If so, what should it be?  And would NEP be dictated by the Central Committee?

Heh.
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