Senators slam plan to make soldiers pay for service treatment

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Weatherman

March 12, 2009, 10:38:18 AM
QuoteWASHINGTON (CNN) -- Veterans Affairs Secretary Eric Shinseki confirmed Tuesday that the Obama administration is considering a controversial plan to make veterans pay for treatment of service-related injuries with private insurance.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/03/10/veterans.health.insurance/index.html

Fail.

Neil

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March 12, 2009, 10:39:05 AM
I could understand how that would be controversial.
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Tiamat

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March 12, 2009, 10:43:14 AM
Why shouldn't veterans be required to pay for treatment with private health insurance? The cost of the Iraq War is substantial, but long term care of these individuals will lead to VA insolvency.

Weatherman

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March 12, 2009, 10:47:58 AM
Quote from: Tiamat on March 12, 2009, 10:43:14 AM
Why shouldn't veterans be required to pay for treatment with private health insurance? The cost of the Iraq War is substantial, but long term care of these individuals will lead to VA insolvency.

We were able to do it after WW2, Korea, and Vietnam. Why should this be any different?

Tiamat

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March 12, 2009, 10:49:36 AM Last Edit: March 12, 2009, 10:52:24 AM by Tiamat
Quote from: Weatherman on March 12, 2009, 10:47:58 AM
Quote from: Tiamat on March 12, 2009, 10:43:14 AM
Why shouldn't veterans be required to pay for treatment with private health insurance? The cost of the Iraq War is substantial, but long term care of these individuals will lead to VA insolvency.

We were able to do it after WW2, Korea, and Vietnam. Why should this be any different?
They're going to live longer and the cost of medical care has risen dramatically over the past sixty years. If this plan is killed by the Congress, then I would expect severe rationing of VA resources in the future. I suppose that's how they'll force costs down...

Grey Fox

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March 12, 2009, 11:05:54 AM
Only a complete nationalisation of the HC can save America now.
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KRonn

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March 12, 2009, 11:30:20 AM
Wow, what a piece of fail this is. "Charging for service related injuries".

Berkut

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March 12, 2009, 11:34:11 AM
I don't know, from where Obama sits and his level of experience and understanding of things military, I am sure it makes perfect sense for service members to pay for their own health care resulting from injuries serving the war machine.

We could save some more money by making them pay for their own ammo as well. This would not only remove some of the burden from the federal budget, freeing up money for more grants to ACORN and other groups doing *real* work, but would likely encourage them to be more careful in their use of firepower and perhaps even stop them from killing so many innocent victims of US imperialism.

After all, a bullet is no reset button!
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viper37

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March 12, 2009, 11:50:55 AM
Quote from: Berkut on March 12, 2009, 11:34:11 AM

We could save some more money by making them pay for their own ammo as well. This would not only remove some of the burden from the federal budget, freeing up money for more grants to ACORN and other groups doing *real* work, but would likely encourage them to be more careful in their use of firepower and perhaps even stop them from killing so many innocent victims of US imperialism.

After all, a bullet is no reset button!
apparently, many US Soldiers pay themselves for some piece of equipment, because the standard stuff is just not good.

Oh, and that idea is stupid.
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March 12, 2009, 11:52:28 AM
If a soldier is too stupid to stay out of a bullet's way then he should pay the treatment.

Also gives a whole new meaning to "He bought it."
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grumbler

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March 12, 2009, 11:56:51 AM
I must admit that it is fun to watch all the sturm und drang over a plan that does not exist yet.  Hell, we have a strawman argument that is more flecshed out than the "plan" being attacked!  :D
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Berkut

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March 12, 2009, 12:31:21 PM
Quote from: grumbler on March 12, 2009, 11:56:51 AM
I must admit that it is fun to watch all the sturm und drang over a plan that does not exist yet.  Hell, we have a strawman argument that is more flecshed out than the "plan" being attacked!  :D

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The Brain

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March 12, 2009, 12:34:51 PM
One would think that a step away from the rampant Socialism of the military would be greeted more favorably here. But no.
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derspiess

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March 12, 2009, 12:56:27 PM
Quote from: grumbler on March 12, 2009, 11:56:51 AM
I must admit that it is fun to watch all the sturm und drang over a plan that does not exist yet.  Hell, we have a strawman argument that is more flecshed out than the "plan" being attacked!  :D

So... people have to shut up about it until it's official policy?  ???
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March 12, 2009, 12:57:28 PM
Quote from: derspiess on March 12, 2009, 12:56:27 PM
Quote from: grumbler on March 12, 2009, 11:56:51 AM
I must admit that it is fun to watch all the sturm und drang over a plan that does not exist yet.  Hell, we have a strawman argument that is more flecshed out than the "plan" being attacked!  :D

So... people have to shut up about it until it's official policy?  ???

Do you even have to ask?
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