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Started by jimmy olsen, January 04, 2012, 10:18:54 PM

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dps

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on August 21, 2012, 10:47:36 AM
He's basically having a career average year.   :huh:

OBP is .367 compared to .382 career
SLUG is .442 compared to .449 career

If his hot streak tails off soon he will likely end up somewhat below those numbers.

Yeah, I never thought he'd see the high side of .300 for a season again, but about a third of the way through he was up around .350.  Now he's down to .314 last I looked, so he still might finish under .300.  And it's not like he hit .220 last year.

The Minsky Moment

Batting average is subject to a lot of variability year-to-year

Here's the batting average by age of another player:

36 .270
37 .271
38 .340

HINT: He is also a famous shortstop.
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dps

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on August 21, 2012, 11:33:33 AM
Batting average is subject to a lot of variability year-to-year

Here's the batting average by age of another player:

36 .270
37 .271
38 .340

HINT: He is also a famous shortstop.

Without looking it up, I'm going to guess Appling.


jimmy olsen

Quote from: dps on August 21, 2012, 11:11:22 AM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on August 21, 2012, 10:47:36 AM
He's basically having a career average year.   :huh:

OBP is .367 compared to .382 career
SLUG is .442 compared to .449 career

If his hot streak tails off soon he will likely end up somewhat below those numbers.
Yeah, I never thought he'd see the high side of .300 for a season again, but about a third of the way through he was up around .350.  Now he's down to .314 last I looked, so he still might finish under .300.  And it's not like he hit .220 last year.
He's hitting .324

Age 36 - .270
Age 37 - .297
Age 38 - .324

A suspicious trajectory.

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katmai

Stop being such a fucking moron.

age 33 .322    .388    .452    .840    
age 34 .300    .363    .408    .771    
age 35 .334    .406    .465    .871    
age 36 .270    .340    .370    .710    
age 37 .297    .355    .388    .743    
age38 .326    .367    .443    .809    
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Eddie Teach

He's a Yankee, thus guilty.
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MadBurgerMaker

So basically Derek Jeter is really good?  Okay then.

jimmy olsen

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on August 21, 2012, 11:32:51 PM
He's a Yankee, thus guilty.
My paranoia is equal opportunity. I'm sure David Ortiz is on HGH. 
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dps

Well, Appling turned out to be a really bad guess:

Age 36- .328 (lead the league)
Age 37- DNP (WWII)
Age 38- .368 (in just 57 AB after getting out of the service)

dps

Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 21, 2012, 11:35:13 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on August 21, 2012, 11:32:51 PM
He's a Yankee, thus guilty.
My paranoia is equal opportunity. I'm sure David Ortiz is on HGH. 

Given his physique, I'd guess Ortiz is on hamburgers and burritos.

The Minsky Moment

Cal Ripkin Jr.

But Appling is a great guess - had an unusual career path.
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The Minsky Moment

Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 21, 2012, 11:35:13 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on August 21, 2012, 11:32:51 PM
He's a Yankee, thus guilty.
My paranoia is equal opportunity. I'm sure David Ortiz is on HGH.

David Ortiz tested positive. That's an actual fact.

If you are really paranoid and equal opportunity then you have to assume everyone is guilty.  Yeah everyone says that Junior Griffey never took, but how do you explain 2005?  Omar Vizquel hit .295 (3d best in career) at age 39?  Must be on HGH.  How about Rickey hitting .315 for the Mets in his 40s? And Julio Franco - must be a giant steroid disguised as Dominican firstbaseman.
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Syt

And what about Dock Ellis' No-Hitter in 1970?

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jimmy olsen

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on August 22, 2012, 01:49:14 PM
David Ortiz tested positive. That's an actual fact.

If you are really paranoid and equal opportunity then you have to assume everyone is guilty.  Yeah everyone says that Junior Griffey never took, but how do you explain 2005?  Omar Vizquel hit .295 (3d best in career) at age 39?  Must be on HGH.  How about Rickey hitting .315 for the Mets in his 40s? And Julio Franco - must be a giant steroid disguised as Dominican firstbaseman.
He was only 36 then, and the rest of his 30s were pretty bad so I doubt Griffey was on anything. There would have been more sustained success.

The others, yeah I could see it.
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
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dps

Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 22, 2012, 05:16:21 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on August 22, 2012, 01:49:14 PM
David Ortiz tested positive. That's an actual fact.

If you are really paranoid and equal opportunity then you have to assume everyone is guilty.  Yeah everyone says that Junior Griffey never took, but how do you explain 2005?  Omar Vizquel hit .295 (3d best in career) at age 39?  Must be on HGH.  How about Rickey hitting .315 for the Mets in his 40s? And Julio Franco - must be a giant steroid disguised as Dominican firstbaseman.
He was only 36 then, and the rest of his 30s were pretty bad so I doubt Griffey was on anything. There would have been more sustained success.

The others, yeah I could see it.

Griffey's 2005 is easy to explain--it's the only year between 2000 and 2007 in which he was healthy enough to play even 120 games:

2000:  145 games
2001:  111 games
2002:   70 games
2003:   59 games
2004:   83 games
2005:  128 games
2006:  109 games
2007:  144 games

2007 was pretty much a last hurrah for him--he played 143 games in 2008, but wasn't much good that year by his standards, and then played poorly in limited duty the next year and a half before retiring early in the season in 2010.