Holocaust survivors blast Nazi garb at protest

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jimmy olsen

Outrageous   :mad:

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QuoteHolocaust Survivors Blast Nazi Garb at Protest

By ARON HELLER Associated Press
JERUSALEM January 1, 2012 (AP)


Images of ultra-Orthodox Jews dressing up as Nazi concentration camp inmates during a protest drew widespread condemnation Sunday and added a new twist to a simmering battle over growing extremism inside Israel's insular ultra-Orthodox community.

Religious extremists are facing increasing criticism for their efforts to separate men and women in public spaces, and Saturday's protest, in which a child mimicked an iconic photo of a terrified Jewish boy in the Warsaw Ghetto, added to the outrage.

Thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews gathered Saturday night in Jerusalem to protest what they say is a nationwide campaign directed against their lifestyle. The protesters called Israeli policemen Nazis, wore yellow Star of David patches with the word "Jude" — German for Jew — dressed their children in striped black-and-white uniforms associated with Nazi concentration camps and transported them in the back of a truck.

Israel's Yad Vashem Holocaust memorial denounced the use of Nazi imagery as "disgraceful," and several other survivors' groups and politicians condemned the acts.

"We must leave the Holocaust and its symbols outside the arguments in Israeli society," said Moshe Zanbar, chairman of the main umbrella group for Holocaust survivors in Israel. "This harms the memory of the Holocaust."

Six million Jews were killed by German Nazis and their collaborators during World War II. About 200,000 aging survivors of the Holocaust live in Israel.

Ultra-Orthodox Jews make up 10 percent of Israel's population. In the past, they have generally confined their strict lifestyle to their own neighborhoods. But they have become increasingly aggressive in trying to impose their ways on others, as their population has grown and spread to new areas.

Extremist sects within the ultra-Orthodox community have been under fire of late for their attempts to ban mixing of the sexes on buses, sidewalks and other public spaces.

In one city, extremists have jeered and spit at girls walking to school, saying they were dressed immodestly. They've also battled with police over street signs calling for segregation and attacked journalists who have covered their neighborhoods. In recent weeks, a few young Israeli women have caused nationwide uproars for refusing the orders of religious men to move to the back of public buses.

These practices, albeit by a fringe sect, have unleashed a backlash against the ultra-Orthodox in general, the climax of which came last week in a large demonstration where protesters held signs reading, "Free Israel from religious coercion," and "Stop Israel from becoming Iran."

Rabbi Yitzhak Weiss, one of the organizers of Saturday's protest, said the use of Nazi symbols was intentional and aimed at highlighting what he said was a campaign by the secular media against his community.

"The idea was to convey a clear and simple message: that wild incitement against the ultra-Orthodox community will not be tolerated," he told The Associated Press. "The Israeli media's incitement is reminiscent of the German media's before World War II."

One of the protesters, Yaakov Israel, told Channel 2 TV that his community feels "persecuted" by the Israeli establishment. "We feel what is being done to us here is a spiritual Holocaust," he said.

It's not the first time ultra-Orthodox zealots have referred to the Holocaust in their political struggles. But the sight of children dressed in garb that conjures up images of the darkest period in Jewish history was unprecedented. It sparked angry rebuttals that only exacerbated Israel's brewing religious war.

Israeli leaders condemned the display and called on the ultra-Orthodox leadership to speak out against it.

"This is a terrible offense against the memory of the Holocaust victims who were forced, secular and Ultra-Orthodox alike, to wear the yellow star in the ghetto on their way to extermination, and there is no demonstration in the world that can justify this," said opposition leader Tzipi Livni.

Defense Minister Ehud Barak called the display "shocking and horrifying" and a "crossing of a red line."

The American Gathering of Holocaust Survivors and their Descendants, an umbrella organization of U.S. survivors, expressed its "utter contempt at this disgraceful exploitation" of the Nazi symbols.

"We who survived and witnessed these Nazi crimes are particularly offended that demonstrators so blithely used children in this public outrage. They have insulted the memory of all the Jewish victims, including those who were ultra-Orthodox," the organization's vice president, Elan Steinberg, said in a statement.

"The Nazis made no distinction in their murderous treatment of our people — whether one was ultra-Orthodox, traditional, or nonbeliever, you were marked for cruelty and death."
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CountDeMoney

Nazi garb?  I figured that would be SS uniforms, not Jew pajamas.

Quoteand their collaborators

lol, didn't miss that one, did they?

Martinus

Good luck to all the secular Israelis in their fight for a secular state.

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QuoteOutrageous   :mad:



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QuoteIn one city, extremists have jeered and spit at girls walking to school, saying they were dressed immodestly. They've also battled with police over street signs calling for segregation and attacked journalists who have covered their neighborhoods. In recent weeks, a few young Israeli women have caused nationwide uproars for refusing the orders of religious men to move to the back of public buses.


And yet they play the victim card. Takes quite some chutzpah.
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Neil

It's the ultra-Orthodox.  There is no low they won't sink to in their pursuit of religious fuck-headery.
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Zoupa

Israel: lots more crazy antisemites than Europe.  :)

Eddie Teach

Quote from: Zoupa on January 02, 2012, 10:56:16 AM
Israel: lots more crazy antisemites than Europe.  :)

Impossible, they only have 7 million people.
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Neil

Quote from: Zoupa on January 02, 2012, 11:36:08 AM
You have to compound with the level of crazy.
I don't think that these guys are any more crazy than the animal-rights extremists, the ultra-greens, the anticapitalists or the semi-Russians from Poland or Hungary.
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Neil

Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 02, 2012, 12:06:14 PM
Are those girls or boys?
Boys.  The ultra-Orthodox would never allow a woman or girl to appear in public without throwing stones at her.
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Sheilbh

Quote from: Martinus on January 02, 2012, 06:10:05 AM
Good luck to all the secular Israelis in their fight for a secular state.
Indeed.

Also good luck to the non-settlers fighting the aggressive settler movements who've taken to acts of violence on Palestinians, burning down Mosques and attacking the IDF.
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