Brazil's economy overtake UK's

[mongers]

So unless China crashes and burns soon we may have a new hegemon in a couple of decades.

Excellent.

But really the US passed the UK in the size of its economy decades before it replaced it as hegemon so it may not be as soon as you think.

So you the USA to carry on doing the 'heavy-lifting' and run itself into the ground, all while the Chinese builds up massive economic power to be ready to take over once the US is a spent force ?   

I understand each word, but they don't seem to work together in that order. 

Missed out a want as the third word.

[mongers]

I find it difficult to define a hegemon by the amount of counterfeit watches, handbags and pharmaceuticals it produces.  You'll have to do better, mongers.

Money keep telling yourself that, but just look around you, who much of the stuff in your Condo has 'made in China' printed on it ? 

30 years ago just about the only thing you'd find with that on it would be some stuff inside particularly cheap Xmas crackers or those horrible small novelty playing cards that seemed to come via the Eastern Block. 

[CountDeMoney]

I find it difficult to define a hegemon by the amount of counterfeit watches, handbags and pharmaceuticals it produces.  You'll have to do better, mongers.

Money keep telling yourself that, but just look around you, who much of your stuff in your Condo has made in China stamped on it ? 

I have three telephones that say "Western Electric, Model 500" stamped on them.  BUILT TO MOTHERFUCKING LAST.
So fuck you.

[Neil]

I find it difficult to define a hegemon by the amount of counterfeit watches, handbags and pharmaceuticals it produces.  You'll have to do better, mongers.

Money keep telling yourself that, but just look around you, who much of your stuff in your Condo has made in China stamped on it ? 

I have three telephones that say "Western Electric, Model 500" stamped on them.  BUILT TO MOTHERFUCKING LAST.
So fuck you.

I think he was referring to those girls you've got chained in your closet.

[Ideologue]

No country that's outnumbered 500:1 in the only field that counts is likely to wield a true hegemonic power.

[Admiral Yi]

Cable channels? Craft beers? Breakfast cereals?

[Richard Hakluyt]

So unless China crashes and burns soon we may have a new hegemon in a couple of decades.

Excellent.

But really the US passed the UK in the size of its economy decades before it replaced it as hegemon so it may not be as soon as you think.

I agree with your comment but can't say that the thought is very cheery. Having to be hegemon with insufficient relative power is a recipe for even faster relative decline. The UK is still working through the consequences and exhaustion of that period of responsibility without sufficient power.

I would suggest that the EU could help to take up some of the burden and work as an equal partner with the US, but do not want to derail the thread into comedy territory.

[Ideologue]

Cable channels? Craft beers? Breakfast cereals?

Don't be coy.

[Valmy]

So you want the USA to carry on doing the 'heavy-lifting' and run itself into the ground, all the while the Chinese builds up massive economic power to be ready to take over once the US is a spent force ?   

I thought the US should have stopped with the heavy lifting as soon as the Cold War ended.  I am stating I want somebody else to be the hegemon, but I doubt the Chinese passing us in economic size is going to magically accomplish that....unfortunately.

Heck why does there have to be a hegemon?

[Valmy]

Money keep telling yourself that, but just look around you, who much of the stuff in your Condo has 'made in China' printed on it ? 

Well everything used to say 'Made in Taiwan' 'Made in South Korea' and 'Made in Japan'.

[Valmy]

I would suggest that the EU could help to take up some of the burden and work as an equal partner with the US, but do not want to derail the thread into comedy territory.

If only we had some sort of alliance structure that could facilitate that.

[Ed Anger]

EU could help to take up some of the burden

[KRonn]

I would suggest that the EU could help to take up some of the burden and work as an equal partner with the US, but do not want to derail the thread into comedy territory.

If only we had some sort of alliance structure that could facilitate that.

[Sheilbh]

I would suggest that the EU could help to take up some of the burden and work as an equal partner with the US, but do not want to derail the thread into comedy territory.

The trouble is the US has done too much and is simply overstretched.  It's not a case of someone stepping in, so much as no-one else really finding that breadth of deployment in their vital interest.  I don't think it's even in the US's interests. 

I'm not sure what 'heavy lifting' there is still to do.

[Eddie Teach]

Heck why does there have to be a hegemon?

To ensure world peace.

(Guards, take this traitor away!  )