Would the World be a Better Place if the Central Powers Won the Great War?

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Would the World be a Better Place if the Central Powers Won the Great War?

Yes
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Yes, but only if they won a quick victory
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No
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sbr

#30
December 26, 2011, 08:56:38 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 26, 2011, 06:41:47 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on December 26, 2011, 01:25:22 PM
Well it's clear that the Central Powers can't win by invading France and Russia.  All attempts to do so had a 100% failure rate.
:rolleyes:

Which war did they win by invading one or the other?

Tonitrus

#31
December 26, 2011, 09:23:42 PM
Quote from: sbr on December 26, 2011, 08:56:38 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 26, 2011, 06:41:47 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on December 26, 2011, 01:25:22 PM
Well it's clear that the Central Powers can't win by invading France and Russia.  All attempts to do so had a 100% failure rate.
:rolleyes:

Which war did they win by invading one or the other?

Franco-Prussian War?

Razgovory

#32
December 26, 2011, 09:25:04 PM
Not the Central Powers.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

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Razgovory

#34
December 26, 2011, 09:38:03 PM
Also, not Central Powers.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

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alfred russel

#35
December 26, 2011, 09:42:18 PM
Quote from: Faeelin on December 26, 2011, 02:53:41 PM
I'm somewhat suspicious of the notion that the world wars weakened the European empires and so hastened the fall of their empires. Weakened them how? The UK in 1960 was richer and more powerful in absolute terms than in 1939.  But still, it left Africa.

I don't see how the Kaiser's boot on the people's of Europe is really ideal or better than OTL.

One thing that changed is the 1960 world was dominated by the US and USSR: neither of which were traditional colonial powers. The world system was not so tolerant of colonialism.
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jimmy olsen

#36
December 26, 2011, 09:43:24 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on December 26, 2011, 09:38:03 PM
Also, not Central Powers.
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#37
December 26, 2011, 10:01:41 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 25, 2011, 11:17:37 PM
Would the World be a Better Place if the Central Powers Won the Great War?

I think the World Would Sure be a Better Place if the Central Powers Won the Great War.
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Razgovory

#38
December 26, 2011, 10:05:18 PM
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

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Razgovory

#40
December 26, 2011, 11:47:34 PM
Quote from: sbr on December 26, 2011, 10:32:45 PM
Quote from: Ender on December 26, 2011, 09:32:27 PM
France 1940.

War didn't end in 1940.

I think they lost that one as well.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Ideologue

#41
December 27, 2011, 12:06:30 AM Last Edit: December 27, 2011, 12:09:49 AM by Ideologue
No, because World War II would not have occurred in the same fashion that it did, and World War II was ultimately a planetary good, shattering fascism as a political possibility in the West, probably forever, and probably did more than anything in history to convince people that racism was bad.  Also, turning to the Pacific, WWII transformed Japan into a good and decent country able to take its place at the table of civilization, supplying us with automobiles, electronics, and enjoyable entertainment, such as Gamera and bukkake.  Weenies may not like it, but the numbers speak for themselves: nuclear war has a 100% success rate.

Shame about that Soviet domination, I suppose, but really, what's the difference?  Excepting Czechoslovakia, the whole of Eastern Europe was a corrupt, authoritarian hellhole long before the RKKA got there.  At least the commies managed to impose some order on their balkantardation, something the Habsburgs could never do.
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The Minsky Moment

#43
December 27, 2011, 03:16:44 PM
If the Central Powers won, we'd have to deal with alt hist threads about the Allies winning, so we'd be no better off than before.
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Tonitrus

#44
December 27, 2011, 03:27:06 PM
I am pretty sure that the only way to eliminate alt-history threads is if the Nazis won. :hmm:
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