GOP Primary Megathread!

[DGuller]

Because Americans for some reason have an active contempt for the exceptionally intelligent know-it-all types.

FYP

Yeah, that's the usual pretext used to justify the behavior Berkut described in the unmodified post.

[Ideologue]

Sorry, shouldn't be free.

That really doesn't make sense to me. If I eat something from Frito Lay, I have no reasonable expectation that I can recover anything from some random guy with stock in his account if I get food poisoning. Why should the government charge for an arrangement that is the only one that makes rational sense?

Gotta go to work now (these dummies probably are organized as a partnership), but I'll respond to this later.

[derspiess]

Derspeiss is perhaps a bit like me, he votes against people more than for them.

I mean, if they ran Kucinich, I'd still bite the bullet just to vote against the GOP.

It's not like I want it that way-- it just happens to be the most uninspiring group of primary candidates since I started voting.

[derspiess]

Because Americans for some reason have an active contempt for the exceptionally intelligent know-it-all types.

FYP

Yeah, that's the usual pretext used to justify the behavior Berkut described in the unmodified post.

Seriously-- I don't think Americans dislike intelligent people, per se.  They just happen to also place a high value on personality and dislike being lectured to.  Clinton was supposedly rather intelligent, but that didn't seem to get in the way of him winning the popular vote-- twice.

[Phillip V]

Because Americans for some reason have an active contempt for the exceptionally intelligent know-it-all types.

FYP

Yeah, that's the usual pretext used to justify the behavior Berkut described in the unmodified post.

Seriously-- I don't think Americans dislike intelligent people, per se.  They just happen to also place a high value on personality and dislike being lectured to.  Clinton was supposedly rather intelligent, but that didn't seem to get in the way of him winning the popular vote-- twice.

He never won a majority of the popular vote.

[derspiess]

He never won a majority of the popular vote.

True, but he was clearly considered the most likable of all three candidates in both elections.  Plus he had an impressive approval rating (generally a reflection of popularity) through his tenure.

[Razgovory]

He never won a majority of the popular vote.

He was never a supreme court justice either.  So what?  Why do Republicans like to bring that up?

[Habbaku]

He never won a majority of the popular vote.

He was never a supreme court justice either.  So what?  Why do Republicans like to bring that up?

I suspect for the same reason that you harp on about many of the inane things you do.

[Viking]

No the only thing I could recall is that a few years back she resisted proposed creditor friendly amendments to the bankruptcy laws that were being pushed by the credit card industry.

You yourself a page back or so said she advocates loan foregiveness as part of bankruptcy.  Am I missing some key point here?

Yes.  Individual bankruptcies in the US amost always involve forgiveness of loans.  that has been so for many years now.

This is something Europe could learn from the USA. Here in Norway personal bankrupcies often result in permanent bankrupcy where the individual can be left liable for all the loans for life. It is often a personal hell and is very highly stigmatized by society. If you went bankrupt it's your own fault you were a bad/immoral/spendthrift person etc. Going personally bankrupt without loan and debt forgiveness results in people ending up as permanent wards of the state where any income they might have is taken from them to pay their often unpayable debts and the bankrupt person is on welfare for life with no incentive to work.

American style Chapter 11 bankrupcy protection is also often not available. I know that some countries in Europe (the UK iirc) are trying to import some aspects of it but in other less capitalist friendly places like norway your creditors can sue you for unpayed bills and have the court sieze your assets and sell them.

[Razgovory]

I suspect for the same reason that you harp on about many of the inane things you do.

I can buy that.  The whole of the GOP is insane and mentally unfit to hold any office.

[DGuller]

Seriously-- I don't think Americans dislike intelligent people, per se.  They just happen to also place a high value on personality and dislike being lectured to.  Clinton was supposedly rather intelligent, but that didn't seem to get in the way of him winning the popular vote-- twice.

So, being intelligent is fine, as long as you hide it.

[HVC]

Kind of like herpes.

[CountDeMoney]

Seriously-- I don't think Americans dislike intelligent people, per se.

Yes, they do.  It's counter to the legacy of the Calvinist work ethic, and intelligent people have had a habit of getting together and starting rather nasty revolutions.

There's an inherent distrust of the smartest kid in the class.

[mongers]

Seriously-- I don't think Americans dislike intelligent people, per se.

Yes, they do.  It's counter to the legacy of the Calvinist work ethic, and intelligent people have had a habit of getting together and starting rather nasty revolutions.

There's an inherent distrust of the smartest kid in the class.

Same over here, my childhood friend got roundly booed at college when he went up to collect his award for high academic achievement, even allowing for some Languishites, still perhaps one of the very brightest people I've ever met. And they knew that as well, hence the booing. 

[derspiess]

Seriously-- I don't think Americans dislike intelligent people, per se.

Yes, they do.  It's counter to the legacy of the Calvinist work ethic, and intelligent people have had a habit of getting together and starting rather nasty revolutions.

There's an inherent distrust of the smartest kid in the class.

Only if he is socially inept.