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Started by JonasSalk, December 13, 2011, 01:08:40 PM

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JonasSalk

December 13, 2011, 01:08:40 PM
Yay protectionism!

http://youtu.be/7mHMRro0QM0

http://www.citytv.com/toronto/citynews/life/article/174721--butter-shortage-in-norway-as-christmas-looms

QuoteButter is now selling on Norway's top auction website,with a 250 gram piece starting at around 13 U.S. dollars, roughly four times its normal price.

The residents of the world's second-richest per-capita country cannot even hope for help from a friendly neighbour who is rolling in butter.

Top dairy producer Denmark lies just across a narrow sea channel, but its stores of creamy butter will be kept out of the country by the high import duties of Norway, the only Nordic nation that does not belong to the European Union.
Yuman

Grey Fox

#1
December 13, 2011, 01:12:13 PM
It has a kept thousands of milk farmers in business so yea, Yay protectionism.
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Octavian

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December 13, 2011, 01:37:32 PM


Come on Norwegians...you know you wan't it!

Butter for Oil!
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JonasSalk

#3
December 13, 2011, 01:37:39 PM
Well in that case, you should mandate that everything in Norway be manufactured in Norway. Why stop at butter? More jobs for EVERYBODY!
Yuman

Slargos

#4
December 13, 2011, 03:54:38 PM
Quote from: JonasSalk on December 13, 2011, 01:37:39 PM
Well in that case, you should mandate that everything in Norway be manufactured in Norway. Why stop at butter? More jobs for EVERYBODY!
The other manufactoring industries are so stunted they don't have much political clout to speak of. The farmers and fishermen are a powerful political factor.

Capetan Mihali

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December 13, 2011, 04:06:55 PM
Why is JonasSalk back?   :(
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Razgovory

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December 13, 2011, 04:24:55 PM Last Edit: December 13, 2011, 05:11:19 PM by Razgovory
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on December 13, 2011, 04:06:55 PM
Why is JonasSalk back?   :(

Marty has been cutting back on stupid comments so someone had to fill the gap.
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Capetan Mihali

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December 13, 2011, 04:29:41 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on December 13, 2011, 04:24:55 PM
Marty has been cutting back on stupid comments so someone had fill the gap.

I'll head over to the WWI thread to do my part.   :showoff:
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dps

#8
December 13, 2011, 06:00:20 PM
Misread the thread title as "Norwegian Butler Shortage".

sbr

#9
December 13, 2011, 06:02:41 PM
Quote from: dps on December 13, 2011, 06:00:20 PM
Misread the thread title as "Norwegian Butler Shortage".

:D  Me too.

Josquius

#10
December 13, 2011, 07:22:49 PM
Quote from: dps on December 13, 2011, 06:00:20 PM
Misread the thread title as "Norwegian Butler Shortage".
heaven knows they're rich enough for it
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Malthus

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December 13, 2011, 07:25:27 PM
Quote from: Tyr on December 13, 2011, 07:22:49 PM
Quote from: dps on December 13, 2011, 06:00:20 PM
Misread the thread title as "Norwegian Butler Shortage".
heaven knows they're rich enough for it

Too rich to have to buttle for a living?  ;)
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JonasSalk

#12
December 13, 2011, 07:28:18 PM
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on December 13, 2011, 04:06:55 PM
Why is JonasSalk back?   :(

Why are you?
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Eddie Teach

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December 13, 2011, 07:43:08 PM
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on December 13, 2011, 04:06:55 PM
Why is JonasSalk back?   :(

The forum is suffering from a crazy right-wingers shortage, so we recalled him and KwangTiger.  :P
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Viking

#14
December 13, 2011, 07:47:49 PM
There is a shortage of something every year. Usually it gets blamed on the planners inability to predict the future, but always it is a result of giving the farmers cooperative a monopoly on some kind of product.

In this case the old farmers coop "Tine Norske Meierier" has a legislated role as market regulator - basically a legislated monopoly. Somehow it is imagined that Tine will act for the consumer. Otherwise the butter market is protected by steep toll barriers and even Tine's competetors have to use Tine's network of subsidized dairies and Tine has to accept them. But, we have found that Tine gets away with prioritizing it's own production over competetors - a horrifying abuse of the monopoly given the perishable nature of dairy goods. This is a disgrace. However this system is maintained by norwegian bigotry and individual norwegians are willing to saccrifice their own free choice to force all their countrymen to maintain norwegian farmers. The arguments are typically food security (yes Soviet subs are about to cut the food supply to Norway in case of conflict) and what is called "culture landscape" - yes tourists like to see pretty little farmhouses. 

So on the whole the result is that norwegian farming uses more capital on the inputs cost more than it's products. Let me repeat the net result of all the hard work of norwegian farmers is negative. In effect the norwegian farmer is destroying value, BEFORE he takes his own salary. Subsidies to farmers are greater than income from farming.

This system is totally ridiculous.
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Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
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