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Started by Zoupa, December 11, 2011, 10:00:44 PM

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Admiral Yi

Quote from: Sheilbh on December 12, 2011, 02:39:03 PM
Yes it was. French, British and American sources confirm that MGM was sent by Chirac to warn DC that France would veto.

If all Villepin had done was cast a veto, then it hardly qualifies as bitch slapping either, does it?

Zouperhead was talking about the public theater, as was I.

The Minsky Moment

Quote from: Sheilbh on December 12, 2011, 02:39:03 PM
Yes it was. French, British and American sources confirm that MGM was sent by Chirac to warn DC that France would veto.

Isn't that just like Chirac?  Instead of getting on the phone himself, he sends a bankrupt movie studio to deliver a message to a comic book company.
The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson

Zoupa

Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 12, 2011, 02:46:35 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on December 12, 2011, 02:39:03 PM
Yes it was. French, British and American sources confirm that MGM was sent by Chirac to warn DC that France would veto.

If all Villepin had done was cast a veto, then it hardly qualifies as bitch slapping either, does it?

Zouperhead was talking about the public theater, as was I.

http://www.foreignpolicy.org.tr/documents/villepin_140203_p.htm

Where's the backstabbing part?

Ed Anger

I wish I knew we was going to re-fight 2003 all over again so I could be better prepared with all the old french jokes.
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mongers

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on December 12, 2011, 04:47:50 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on December 12, 2011, 02:39:03 PM
Yes it was. French, British and American sources confirm that MGM was sent by Chirac to warn DC that France would veto.

Isn't that just like Chirac?  Instead of getting on the phone himself, he sends a bankrupt movie studio to deliver a message to a comic book company.

Between them they would have probably run the occupation a bit better.
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

Richard Hakluyt

The Justice League of America would certainly not have abused the prisoners  :hmm:

OTOH MGM may have had the wrong confessional background to really make a go of running Iraq  :huh:


The Minsky Moment

Quote from: crazy canuck on December 12, 2011, 06:14:47 PM
Today we are all Americans.

Could you move that day to April 15?
That way we can solve that tricky deficit problem.
The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson

Zoupa

Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 12, 2011, 06:31:04 PM
Quote from: Zoupa on December 12, 2011, 05:22:20 PM
http://www.foreignpolicy.org.tr/documents/villepin_140203_p.htm

Where's the backstabbing part?

Where's the bitch slapping part?

Throughout, when he demolishes point by point why military action at that point in time is not a good thing.

Admiral Yi

Quote from: Zoupa on December 12, 2011, 06:43:37 PM
Throughout, when he demolishes point by point why military action at that point in time is not a good thing.

Ah, *that* bitchslapping.

I will confess my memory of the exact statements and actions is a little hazy,  and that the back stabbing charge might be unwarranted.  Generally I was thinking of things like lobbying the nonpermanent members of the Council to vote no, and I was thinking there were more inflamatory remarks, more directed at the public, made by either Chriac or Villepin.

Zoupa

Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 12, 2011, 06:48:23 PM
Quote from: Zoupa on December 12, 2011, 06:43:37 PM
Throughout, when he demolishes point by point why military action at that point in time is not a good thing.

Ah, *that* bitchslapping.

I will confess my memory of the exact statements and actions is a little hazy,  and that the back stabbing charge might be unwarranted.  Generally I was thinking of things like lobbying the nonpermanent members of the Council to vote no, and I was thinking there were more inflamatory remarks, more directed at the public, made by either Chriac or Villepin.

You guys lobbied a lot too, and got the Coalition of the willing.

I don't remember Villepin or Chirac saying anything inflamatory to the press or anything like that.

Sheilbh

Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 12, 2011, 02:46:35 PM

If all Villepin had done was cast a veto, then it hardly qualifies as bitch slapping either, does it?

Zouperhead was talking about the public theater, as was I.
I can see the public theatre of it all mattering for a bitchslap - as opposed to a regular slap.  But surely you either backstab someone or you don't.  That he did it with all his poetic pipes fluting is irrelevant to that.
Let's bomb Russia!

Admiral Yi

Could you live with sucker punch?

Zoupa

Not even.

I still maintain that France has been, and shown itself to be, the best ally the US has ever had.  :sleep:

We're there when it matters, for example and especially humint on the near-east and terrorism.