Pike & Shot or Line Infantry Better Against Traditional Fantasy Horde?

[Eddie Teach]

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[Darth Wagtaros]

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[Razgovory]

Pike/musket combination ala the 1700 Carolean army. It's the only way to be sure.

Wasn't that army humiliated and destroyed by a horde?

nope.logistics destroyed it. the horde never won an engagement where the superior nature of the model was applicable.

Couldn't even feed themselves?  Pathetic.

[Neil]

Pike/musket combination ala the 1700 Carolean army. It's the only way to be sure.

Wasn't that army humiliated and destroyed by a horde?

nope.logistics destroyed it. the horde never won an engagement where the superior nature of the model was applicable.

Poltava?

[Ed Anger]

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[Solmyr]

Pike/musket combination ala the 1700 Carolean army. It's the only way to be sure.

Wasn't that army humiliated and destroyed by a horde?

nope.logistics destroyed it. the horde never won an engagement where the superior nature of the model was applicable.

Poltava?

Swedes don't like to be reminded of that.

[Slargos]

Pike/musket combination ala the 1700 Carolean army. It's the only way to be sure.

Wasn't that army humiliated and destroyed by a horde?

nope.logistics destroyed it. the horde never won an engagement where the superior nature of the model was applicable.

Poltava?

Poltava would've been more than winable if the Swedish army hadn't run out of supplies. My point still stands.

[Neil]

Pike/musket combination ala the 1700 Carolean army. It's the only way to be sure.

Wasn't that army humiliated and destroyed by a horde?

nope.logistics destroyed it. the horde never won an engagement where the superior nature of the model was applicable.

Poltava?

Poltava would've been more than winable if the Swedish army hadn't run out of supplies. My point still stands.

If it can't win, it's inferior.

[Razgovory]

Poltava would've been more than winable if the Swedish army hadn't run out of supplies. My point still stands.

And who's fault is that?

[Slargos]

Poltava would've been more than winable if the Swedish army hadn't run out of supplies. My point still stands.

And who's fault is that?

I am relatively sure it's not mine.

[CountDeMoney]

I'd suggest you look up the reasons for why the bayonette replaced the pike (basically it was just as good against the 18 foot tall monstrosities of plate protected knights on destriers with 16 foot long lances) and why only madmen like Stonewall Jackson and Winston Churchill ever suggested returning to pike use.

My understanding is that by the time the bayonet was introduced the lance had disappeared from Western European battlefields, replaced by the saber.  Obviously there were holdouts further east.

Lancers were somewhat commonplace in Western European armies well into the Napoleonic Era and beyond.  The Victorian period saw the British use lancers quite a few times.

As this is my first foray into this walking partial birth abortion of a thread, I was going to address the British use of lancers in the Victorian era.

As far at the thread topic goes, Kitchener et al already proved what worked on fantasy hordes.

[Viking]

I'd suggest you look up the reasons for why the bayonette replaced the pike (basically it was just as good against the 18 foot tall monstrosities of plate protected knights on destriers with 16 foot long lances) and why only madmen like Stonewall Jackson and Winston Churchill ever suggested returning to pike use.

My understanding is that by the time the bayonet was introduced the lance had disappeared from Western European battlefields, replaced by the saber.  Obviously there were holdouts further east.

Lancers were somewhat commonplace in Western European armies well into the Napoleonic Era and beyond.  The Victorian period saw the British use lancers quite a few times.

As this is my first foray into this walking partial birth abortion of a thread, I was going to address the British use of lancers in the Victorian era.

As far at the thread topic goes, Kitchener et al already proved what worked on fantasy hordes.

The Maxim Gun?

[Slargos]

I'd suggest you look up the reasons for why the bayonette replaced the pike (basically it was just as good against the 18 foot tall monstrosities of plate protected knights on destriers with 16 foot long lances) and why only madmen like Stonewall Jackson and Winston Churchill ever suggested returning to pike use.

My understanding is that by the time the bayonet was introduced the lance had disappeared from Western European battlefields, replaced by the saber.  Obviously there were holdouts further east.

Lancers were somewhat commonplace in Western European armies well into the Napoleonic Era and beyond.  The Victorian period saw the British use lancers quite a few times.

As this is my first foray into this walking partial birth abortion of a thread, I was going to address the British use of lancers in the Victorian era.

As far at the thread topic goes, Kitchener et al already proved what worked on fantasy hordes.

The Maxim Gun?

Killed a lot of darkskinned monsters.

[Razgovory]

I am relatively sure it's not mine.

Well you get to enjoy the fruits of the Swedish King's labor.  As he dwelt with the Muslims, so shall the Muslims dwell with you.