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Zynga CEO wants workers to give back stock

Started by garbon, November 10, 2011, 03:26:39 PM

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garbon

http://news.yahoo.com/report-zynga-ceo-wants-workers-back-stock-155029401.html

QuoteZynga CEO Mark Pincus is pushing some of the online game company's early employees to give back stock they own ahead of the company's initial public offering of stock, according to a published report Thursday.

The Wall Street Journal said that Pincus, who gave out stock freely to keep top talent early on, developed "giver's remorse."

That's because some of the early employees didn't contribute as much to the company as those hired later. But because they got in early, they got more shares.

Zynga's games include "FarmVille," ''Zynga Poker" and "CityVille" and are mostly played on Facebook. The company has filed for an IPO but has not yet said how much it plans to raise. Zynga is among several technology companies that either had IPOs recently or are planning to soon. Groupon Inc. had its IPO last week, and Facebook is likely to have one next year.

Getting into a hot startup early on and reaping the rewards after a sale or IPO is a big part of Silicon Valley culture. The promise of a big payout is what gets a lot of people working long hours with little compensation early in a startup's life.

But the Journal said Pincus wanted people to keep contributing to the company even when it got big rather than just "rest and vest" — that is, wait to cash in.

The Journal cited unnamed people with knowledge of the matter. Reached by The Associated Press, Zynga declined to comment because it is in a federally mandated quiet period ahead of its IPO, which is expected this year. The company, which is based in San Francisco, has about 3,000 employees.

Lynne C. Hermle, a Silicon Valley employment lawyer who does not represent Zynga, said the practice happens at other companies, too.

"I have not seen it publicized but it does happen," she said, citing attorney-client privilege for not naming the companies. "Sometimes it's a negotiation and sometimes it's a fight."

Whether Zynga could get into legal trouble over the issue could depend on whether the stock options it wants back are vested or unvested. The Journal said that in Zynga's case, demands to return stock only applied to shares that have not yet vested. If an employee leaves a company before stock options vest, they lose it. Vested shares, meanwhile, have a fixed value and can be sold.

Hermle, partner at the San Francisco law firm Orrick, Herrington & Sutcliffe LLP, said there "aren't any legal implications with respect to unvested options."

"Certainly nothing that prevents an employer from saying to an executive 'you are making much too much money, accept a lower amount or we'll have to let you go,'" she said.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Admiral Yi

Quote from: garbon on November 10, 2011, 03:26:39 PM
Hermle, partner at the San Francisco law firm Orrick, Herrington & Sutcliffe LLP, said there "aren't any legal implications with respect to unvested options."

"Certainly nothing that prevents an employer from saying to an executive 'you are making much too much money, accept a lower amount or we'll have to let you go,'" she said.
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That's pretty greasy.

Razgovory

I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

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Admiral Yi

Quote from: Razgovory on November 10, 2011, 03:56:11 PM
I thought you would approve, Yi.

I thought you would post something retarded, Raz.

Razgovory

If they pay the workers less, don't you get whatever product they sell for cheaper?  It's it good for you, the consumer?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Admiral Yi

Quote from: Razgovory on November 10, 2011, 04:07:14 PM
If they pay the workers less, don't you get whatever product they sell for cheaper?  It's it good for you, the consumer?

It's it good for me, the consumer, in the short run.  In the long run it's it not good for the labor market in Silicon Valley, which as the article states is built on good faith promises of deferred compensation.

Razgovory

Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 10, 2011, 04:09:43 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 10, 2011, 04:07:14 PM
If they pay the workers less, don't you get whatever product they sell for cheaper?  It's it good for you, the consumer?

It's it good for me, the consumer, in the short run.  In the long run it's it not good for the labor market in Silicon Valley, which as the article states is built on good faith promises of deferred compensation.

Do you have a problem with cutting salaries for union members or pensions of government employees?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Admiral Yi

Quote from: Razgovory on November 10, 2011, 04:13:51 PM
Do you have a problem with cutting salaries for union members or pensions of government employees?

I have problems with cutting pensions of retired government employees.  I have very little problem with cutting salaries or future pensions of anyone, as long as it's not a breach of contract.

Razgovory

I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017


Razgovory

Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 10, 2011, 04:20:18 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 10, 2011, 04:19:18 PM
What about pensions for Union members?

Same as the above.

What about some sort of deferred compensation for the two above groups?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Admiral Yi

Quote from: Razgovory on November 10, 2011, 04:21:19 PM
What about some sort of deferred compensation for the two above groups?

I think it's wrong to offer *anyone* deferred compensation contingent on continued employment and then threaten to fire them, voiding the deferred compensation, if they don't give it up.

Razgovory

I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

DGuller


Camerus

Does "constructive dismissal" exist in the US?