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Eddie Teach

Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 11, 2012, 04:19:58 PM
Quote from: sbr on August 11, 2012, 04:12:21 PM
Why would you think that?

Low risk inmate, at risk in a medium or high security facility.

That's sensible, but if he's up before an elected judge I don't like his chances.
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Quote from: Peter Wiggin on August 11, 2012, 04:25:54 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 11, 2012, 04:19:58 PM
Quote from: sbr on August 11, 2012, 04:12:21 PM
Why would you think that?
Low risk inmate, at risk in a medium or high security facility.
That's sensible, but if he's up before an elected judge I don't like his chances.
Aren't appeals court judges appointed rather than elected?
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Quote from: Neil on August 11, 2012, 04:35:15 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on August 11, 2012, 04:25:54 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 11, 2012, 04:19:58 PM
Quote from: sbr on August 11, 2012, 04:12:21 PM
Why would you think that?
Low risk inmate, at risk in a medium or high security facility.
That's sensible, but if he's up before an elected judge I don't like his chances.
Aren't appeals court judges appointed rather than elected?

Don't know about Pennsylvania, but certainly in some states ALL judges are elected.

And again, I don't know about Pennsylvania specifically, but in some states it's not like the federal penitentiary system where you have different facilities at different security levels for different types of prisoners.  Some states have just one state prison (at least, that used to be true) and in others, the differences prisons just differ in what geographic part of the state they serve, not security level.

Of course, even within a given prison, you can have different security levels. 

The Minsky Moment

Yeah the so-called country clubs are usually federal facilities.

State facilities vary by state (obviously) - but typically nice prison facilities are not a high state budgetary priority.  I don't know what the possibilities in Penn are but wouldn't give decent odds on there being any cushy billets out there.
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Capetan Mihali

Club Fed prisons are a myth anyways.  Most of the programming in federal prisons has been stripped away since the mid 80s anyways and especially the "No Frills Prison" legislation in the mid 90s, which I think was Frank Lautenberg's initiative.  All that, along with the much more significant PLRA, pretty much devastated prisoner rights for a long time.

And as for the state prison, I have a friend from Philadelphia (my female roommate's boyfriend who moved in with his 4-year-old son) who did 30 months minimum security in Penna. and, according to him at least, it was nothing nice.  Huge dormitories is the norm in minimum.
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Capetan Mihali

And Sandusky's going to have to do his time in PC anyways to limit the chance of him getting killed, which basically entails 23 and 1 solitary.
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Neil

It's hard to feel bad for the prisoners.  They're there because they're bad people.
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jimmy olsen

Holy shit!  :yuk:

http://deadspin.com/5937380/the-details-of-minnesota-state-head-football-coach-todd-hoffners-child-porn-charges-are-horrifying

QuoteThe Details Of Minnesota State Head Football Coach Todd Hoffner's Child Porn Charges Are Horrifying
Timothy Burke   

Minnesota State head football coach Todd Hoffner's been charged formally with felony counts of using his own children in a sexual performance and possession of child pornography, and the details outlined in the charges are unpleasant to read. The videos, featuring three children under the age of ten, were allegedly found on Hoffner's school-issued phone when a university employee attempted to back it up or repair it. From Mankato's Free Press:

    A one-minute video created on June 26 showed the three children, one boy and two girls, with their backs to the camera and covered by towels, the complaint said. They drop the towels and turn toward the camera, exposing themselves. The boy allegedly fondles himself and the girls allegedly bend over and expose their anuses to the camera.

    A much shorter video showed the girls dancing naked before the boy enters wearing only a football helmet, according to the complaint. The third video, about two minutes long, allegedly shows one of girls being woken at night by a male and told to go to the bathroom. After the girl gets up, the camera focuses in on the back side of her underwear, the complaint said.


Hoffner didn't exactly cover his tracks.

    The children called the adult "dad" in the video and investigators determined through photos and facebook that the children in the video were Hoffner's children.


Hoffner's attorney called the videos "private family moments" and that "there's nothing in there that's graphic or sexually exploitive or anything along those lines." Judge George Harrelson set bail for Hoffner at $10,000 on the condition he only have contact with his children while another adult is present.
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MadBurgerMaker

Yep.  That's pretty bad.

CountDeMoney

QuoteHoffner's Polish attorney, Martinus, called the videos "private family moments" and that "there's nothing in there that's graphic or sexually exploitive or anything along those lines."

Ed Anger

Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 24, 2012, 05:49:05 AM
QuoteHoffner's Polish attorney, Martinus, called the videos "private family moments" and that "there's nothing in there that's graphic or sexually exploitive or anything along those lines."

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Jet: I see.
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The Brain

 :rolleyes: But cover up ONE active pedophile...
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 11, 2012, 03:44:14 PM
Gotta figure Sandusky is going to do his time in a country club, no?

Transferred to Pennsylvania's hardest core country club.

QuoteFormer Penn State assistant football coach and convicted pedophile Jerry Sandusky was transferred Wednesday to a Pennsylvania state maximum-security prison.

According to CentreDaily.com, Sandusky was transferred for security reasons. The 68-year-old Sandusky will be confined to a prison cell for 22 to 23 hours of each day at the 1,800-bed State Correctional Institution in Greene, Pa., located in the southwestern part of the state, about 25 miles from Sandusky's hometown of Washington, Pa. The prison houses most of Pennsylvania's death-row inmates.

"Given the high-profile nature of this individual, coupled with the nature of his crimes, this makes him very vulnerable in a prison setting," said state corrections secretary John Wetzel in a statement.

By virtue of the transfer, Sandusky will in essence spend the rest of his life in solitary confinement, barring any further legal actions or appeals. He is serving a 30-to-60-year sentence for a variety of sexual crimes against several young boys during his time at Penn State.

Sandusky's attorney, Joe Amendola, is reportedly examining the nature of the transfer and what he will do next on behalf of his client, the web site noted.

In the hour or two that he will be allowed out of his prison cell each day, Sandusky will have extra supervision and escorts, according to Pennsylvania Corrections Department spokesperson Susan McNaughton. He will be allowed one hour of exercise per day and can shower three times per week. He also will be allowed to have personal property approved by prison officials, which can include a TV and radio.

Sandusky will eat all meals in his cell, and will have access to counseling, religion and medication within his cell, as well, prison officials added. While he will be allowed visitors, he will not be allowed to have any physical contact with visitors.


Sandusky is appealing his conviction and seeking a new trial based upon belief his legal team did not have adequate time to provide a defense for him on child sex abuse charges.