The Personhood Initiative

[merithyn]

http://www.personhoodinitiative.com/index.html

Found this on a friend of a friend's facebook page. I'd heard about the initiative, but had not actually read much on it. Now, having read their debates and a bit on their push to include zygotes as human beings, I'm sorry I ever did.   

Law-talkers, what is the chance that this law - should it pass - would make it through the Supreme Court?

[Brazen]

Every sperm is sacred

[Tamas]

Every sperm is sacred

beat me to it   

[Martinus]

http://www.personhoodinitiative.com/index.html

Found this on a friend of a friend's facebook page. I'd heard about the initiative, but had not actually read much on it. Now, having read their debates and a bit on their push to include zygotes as human beings, I'm sorry I ever did.   

Law-talkers, what is the chance that this law - should it pass - would make it through the Supreme Court?

These people are advocating violence against doctors. Thanks for posting the link to crap like this. 

It's as if Slargos posted a link to some neonazi website advocating gassing of Jews and asked the "lawtalkers" about whether such law should be passed. Wtf were you thinking?

[Neil]

It's as if Slargos posted a link to some neonazi website advocating gassing of Jews and asked the "lawtalkers" about whether such law should be passed. Wtf were you thinking?

Another Martinus analogy!  Thanks for adding some humour to the thread. 

[Tamas]

http://www.personhoodinitiative.com/index.html

Found this on a friend of a friend's facebook page. I'd heard about the initiative, but had not actually read much on it. Now, having read their debates and a bit on their push to include zygotes as human beings, I'm sorry I ever did.   

Law-talkers, what is the chance that this law - should it pass - would make it through the Supreme Court?

These people are advocating violence against doctors. Thanks for posting the link to crap like this. 

It's as if Slargos posted a link to some neonazi website advocating gassing of Jews and asked the "lawtalkers" about whether such law should be passed. Wtf were you thinking?

What we need, is an indicator on top of the forum to know wether you are having a good day or a bad day. Then, if you are having a good day, we know you are silent. If you have a bad day, we will just imagine a shit-spitting post by you in every thread.

Much more efficient for everyone involved.

[Razgovory]

Every sperm is sacred

And now you face a demographic collapse.

[Razgovory]

http://www.personhoodinitiative.com/index.html

Found this on a friend of a friend's facebook page. I'd heard about the initiative, but had not actually read much on it. Now, having read their debates and a bit on their push to include zygotes as human beings, I'm sorry I ever did.   

Law-talkers, what is the chance that this law - should it pass - would make it through the Supreme Court?

These people are advocating violence against doctors. Thanks for posting the link to crap like this. 

It's as if Slargos posted a link to some neonazi website advocating gassing of Jews and asked the "lawtalkers" about whether such law should be passed. Wtf were you thinking?

You advocate violence against people all the time.  Christians, Jews, Muslims, people who don't wear enough perfume...

[Valmy]

http://www.personhoodinitiative.com/index.html

Found this on a friend of a friend's facebook page. I'd heard about the initiative, but had not actually read much on it. Now, having read their debates and a bit on their push to include zygotes as human beings, I'm sorry I ever did.  

Law-talkers, what is the chance that this law - should it pass - would make it through the Supreme Court?

A leap forward in birth control is needed now to nip this in the bud.  No accidental pregnancies: no problem.

[merithyn]

These people are advocating violence against doctors. Thanks for posting the link to crap like this. 

It's as if Slargos posted a link to some neonazi website advocating gassing of Jews and asked the "lawtalkers" about whether such law should be passed. Wtf were you thinking?

And once again you show your lack of knowledge of US law (and the use of viable analogies). By the way, this isn't a fringe group in Mississippi. There is a law being bandied around in that state legistlature to do exactly as this website advocates, from what I understand; hence my question.

[Viking]

A leap forward in birth control is needed now to nip this in the bud.  No accidental pregnancies: no problem.

I'm pretty sure texan teens are as irresponsible as non-texan teens.

[Valmy]

A leap forward in birth control is needed now to nip this in the bud.  No accidental pregnancies: no problem.

I'm pretty sure texan teens are as irresponsible as non-texan teens.

You would be wrong.  They are far more irresponsible, at least according to teenage pregnancy rates.

[Scipio]

These people are advocating violence against doctors. Thanks for posting the link to crap like this. 

It's as if Slargos posted a link to some neonazi website advocating gassing of Jews and asked the "lawtalkers" about whether such law should be passed. Wtf were you thinking?

And once again you show your lack of knowledge of US law (and the use of viable analogies). By the way, this isn't a fringe group in Mississippi. There is a law being bandied around in that state legistlature to do exactly as this website advocates, from what I understand; hence my question.

Your understanding is wrong.  It's on the ballot tomorrow because the legislature refused to bring it out of committee in either house.

In my campaigning for justice court judge, people have only been interested in one thing: what do I think about prop 26 (the personhood initiative)?  As an ethical, responsible libertarian pro-life Orthodox Christian attorney, it is wholly (morally, legally, fiscally, ecumenically, etc.) irresponsible to pass this amendment to our state's constitution.

It's an unconstitutional restriction on the privacy rights of persons engaged in the use of birth control, IVF, and abortion; it's an undue burden on abortion, under the current standard post-Casey; and finally, it's legally unenforceable.  You're creating a legal standard of personhood wherein a person is not detectable by science except through highly invasive diagnostic procedures for a period of up to six or eight weeks.  A lot of shit can happen to a fetus during that time, when the woman may not even know she is pregnant.

I look forward to my taxpayer suit I've got ready to go to free all incarcerated pregnant women from jail in MS, because the state can't afford 14th Amendment mandated prenatal care.  Additionally, any pregnant illegal has an anchor fetus.

This is gonna be awesome.  Nay, it'll be OSSUM.

[DGuller]

A leap forward in birth control is needed now to nip this in the bud.  No accidental pregnancies: no problem.

I'm pretty sure texan teens are as irresponsible as non-texan teens.

You would be wrong.  They are far more irresponsible, at least according to teenage pregnancy rates.

Turns out that having sex while practicing abstinence is not the most effective birth control method. 

[Martinus]

An anchor fetus would be awesome. Something out of a horror story.