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Started by jimmy olsen, October 25, 2011, 09:33:53 PM

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jimmy olsen

October 25, 2011, 09:33:53 PM
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45026726/ns/us_news/#.TqdxPHJ9ZFE

QuoteJoe the Plumber is plunging into politics because he thinks it's about time America had a few mechanics, bricklayers and, yes, plumbers in Congress.

Maybe that's true, but we don't need you Joe
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merithyn

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October 25, 2011, 10:01:24 PM
What about him, specifically, do you dislike as a Congressman?
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He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

DGuller

#2
October 25, 2011, 10:20:44 PM
Joe is definitely not a clockmaker.  He can't tell that his fifteen minutes are up.

The Minsky Moment

#3
October 26, 2011, 10:24:47 AM
Quote from: merithyn on October 25, 2011, 10:01:24 PM
What about him, specifically, do you dislike as a Congressman?

The guy is a first rate BS artist, which I suppose is as good a qualification for Congress as any.
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MadImmortalMan

#4
October 26, 2011, 10:45:44 AM
He'll never oust Queen Kaptur. The Queen rules for life.
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merithyn

#5
October 26, 2011, 03:37:55 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on October 26, 2011, 10:24:47 AM
Quote from: merithyn on October 25, 2011, 10:01:24 PM
What about him, specifically, do you dislike as a Congressman?

The guy is a first rate BS artist, which I suppose is as good a qualification for Congress as any.

I have no love of the man. I just wondered what, specifically, Tim objected to.
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

Razgovory

#6
October 26, 2011, 03:39:22 PM
Quote from: merithyn on October 26, 2011, 03:37:55 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on October 26, 2011, 10:24:47 AM
Quote from: merithyn on October 25, 2011, 10:01:24 PM
What about him, specifically, do you dislike as a Congressman?

The guy is a first rate BS artist, which I suppose is as good a qualification for Congress as any.

I have no love of the man. I just wondered what, specifically, Tim objected to.

He's a liar.
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Eddie Teach

#7
October 26, 2011, 03:44:46 PM
The random nature of his "celebrity".
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Ed Anger

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October 26, 2011, 04:32:26 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on October 26, 2011, 10:45:44 AM
He'll never oust Queen Kaptur. The Queen rules for life.

:yes:

Unless her district gets fucked over.
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Maximus

#9
October 26, 2011, 04:35:01 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 26, 2011, 03:39:22 PM
He's a liar.
At least he's not a lawyer.

Scipio

#10
October 26, 2011, 07:23:02 PM
Quote from: Maximus on October 26, 2011, 04:35:01 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 26, 2011, 03:39:22 PM
He's a liar.
At least he's not a lawyer.
Or an ex-Mennonite.

Really, why with the lawyer hate?  For rills?
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Maximus

#11
October 26, 2011, 07:27:34 PM
They are over-represented in congress. Ex-Mennonites probably are not.

Razgovory

#12
October 26, 2011, 07:46:16 PM
Actually, it's nice to have lawmakers who actually understand the laws they are writing and voting on.   Believe it or not, there is some skill and knowledge required to be a useful lawmaker.  The budget ceiling fight was a good example of Congressmen who didn't know what they were doing.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

grumbler

#13
October 27, 2011, 09:20:53 PM
Quote from: Maximus on October 26, 2011, 07:27:34 PM
They are over-represented in congress. Ex-Mennonites probably are not.
Yeah.  The myth that it takes lawyers to pass good laws is pretty much disproven by the fact that something like half the Senators and a third of the Congressmen are lawyers.  I think the country needs more people who know how to create policies and less people who know how to read contracts.
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DGuller

#14
October 27, 2011, 09:27:02 PM
I don't think profession is the reason.  In my personal experience, lawyers are actually extremely intelligent, and able to comprehend issues far outside of their assumed level of expertise. 

I think the problem is with the system, like most corruption problems.  If you give people enough incentives to act unethically, they will.  You can blame their personal shortcomings all you want, but if you want to change the way things are done, you need to change the system.
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