Any of you watch the Republican debate from Las Vegas?

Started by Jacob, October 19, 2011, 12:47:17 AM

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Jacob

Quote from: DGuller on October 19, 2011, 09:09:48 AM
:yes: It doesn't hurt that Republicans are in a full blown retard mode, which makes their debates easier to not bother with.

So basically, let them be completely ridiculous for the next however many months. Then a month or so before the election start paying attention and - in your case - vote Democrat anyways and - in Ed Anger's case - vote Republican as usual?

Valmy

Quote from: Jacob on October 19, 2011, 10:56:23 AM
So basically, let them be completely ridiculous for the next however many months. Then a month or so before the election start paying attention and - in your case - vote Democrat anyways and - in Ed Anger's case - vote Republican as usual?

Well what do you want me to do about it Jake?
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My stance is to wait until near when the primary elections occur.  If I pay too much attention before that...I'm liable to not end up voting. :blush:
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Quote from: Jacob on October 19, 2011, 10:56:23 AM
Quote from: DGuller on October 19, 2011, 09:09:48 AM
:yes: It doesn't hurt that Republicans are in a full blown retard mode, which makes their debates easier to not bother with.

So basically, let them be completely ridiculous for the next however many months. Then a month or so before the election start paying attention and - in your case - vote Democrat anyways and - in Ed Anger's case - vote Republican as usual?

:yes:  Jacob has a pretty good handle on American politics, here.
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Jacob

Quote from: Valmy on October 19, 2011, 10:58:20 AMWell what do you want me to do about it Jake?

Whatever you think you need to do. I wasn't implying anything with my question.

I'm just curious because I derive some enjoyment from Languish discussion of presidential campaigns (including the nominations), much as I derive enjoyment from Languish discussions of the NFL.

KRonn

I missed last night's debate but I've been paying some attention to the candidates. Romney has done very well, pretty polished on his debating, and he's been sharp off the cuff.

Perry I thought would be a contender but I've soured on him. He doesn't seem to have much in the way of deep seated ideas.

Cain I like to an extent. I like his 9-9-9 plan in that it removes many other taxes and adds a Fed sales tax. I'm not saying I strongly endorse that idea but it has some good points in freeing up the massive tax code. I don't think it will fly though, and I don't think Cain has much in the way of economic talent in his campaign. Also, I don't like that Cain makes jokes about not being up on foreign policy. Don't need another rookie in there.

I don't know enough about Huntsman to say, or Santorum, but I'd like one of these guys to show some strong running, maybe provide an alternative to Romney.

Bachman is out, a non-player. She just doesn't have the ability for President, and she does herself in too often with dumb/wrong statements. You'd think that after all her time in Congress that she'd be more on the ball. Too right wing anyway for me.

Gingrich seems one of the smarter candidates. He has a lot of facts and ideas, and I love hearing him tear some issue apart, looking at it from outside the box, with some ideas on fixing. But I don't think he's gaining much traction.

So, I think that Cain will be on the way down, after rocketing to the top as another flavor of the month. Romney keeps on the same, but not gaining either. But I haven't seen any of the others break out from the pack either.

Valmy

Quote from: KRonn on October 19, 2011, 11:23:44 AM
Perry I thought would be a contender but I've soured on him. He doesn't seem to have much in the way of deep seated ideas.

See Jake?  Why do I bother.  KRonn says it only seems like Perry has no ideas after all I have said about his track record as Governor.  Clearly me talking about politics is a waste of time.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Valmy

Quote from: Jacob on October 19, 2011, 11:08:24 AM
Whatever you think you need to do.

Sorry when you said 'let them be ridiculous' I thought you were somehow saying they were only being ridiculous because we were not stopping them from being so.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

fhdz

Quote from: KRonn on October 19, 2011, 11:23:44 AM
I don't think it will fly though, and I don't think Cain has much in the way of economic talent in his campaign.

His 9-9-9 plan was devised by a CPA from Ohio.

Oh, and he has Art Laffer on his "secret economics team".

:lmfao:
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Barrister

Quote from: Valmy on October 19, 2011, 11:35:01 AM
Quote from: Jacob on October 19, 2011, 11:08:24 AM
Whatever you think you need to do.

Sorry when you said 'let them be ridiculous' I thought you were somehow saying they were only being ridiculous because we were not stopping them from being so.

Valmy - it's Jacob.  He can not help himself from sounding snide and condescending, even when he doesn't mean it that way.   :)
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Quote from: Jacob on October 19, 2011, 10:56:23 AM
Quote from: DGuller on October 19, 2011, 09:09:48 AM
:yes: It doesn't hurt that Republicans are in a full blown retard mode, which makes their debates easier to not bother with.

So basically, let them be completely ridiculous for the next however many months. Then a month or so before the election start paying attention and - in your case - vote Democrat anyways and - in Ed Anger's case - vote Republican as usual?
It's going to end up Obama vs. Romney. Not much difference between how they'll govern no matter what they tell their partisans.
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Jacob

Quote from: Barrister on October 19, 2011, 11:43:10 AMValmy - it's Jacob.  He can not help himself from sounding snide and condescending, even when he doesn't mean it that way.   :)

Exactly  :hug:

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Quote from: Razgovory on October 19, 2011, 06:18:05 AM
Saw an interview with Herman Cain.  Remove bank regulation, get rid of the FDIC.   :frusty:

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DGuller

Quote from: Jacob on October 19, 2011, 10:56:23 AM
So basically, let them be completely ridiculous for the next however many months. Then a month or so before the election start paying attention and - in your case - vote Democrat anyways and - in Ed Anger's case - vote Republican as usual?
You're making it sound like my vote is a foregone conclusion.  Believe it or not, I am actually planning to consider my choice between Democrats and Republicans very carefully before I will make my decision to vote for a Democrat.

Jacob

Quote from: DGuller on October 19, 2011, 12:52:33 PMYou're making it sound like my vote is a foregone conclusion.  Believe it or not, I am actually planning to consider my choice between Democrats and Republicans very carefully before I will make my decision to vote for a Democrat.

Oh, I know that you're going to make a rational decision based on considering the merits of each of the candidates. No doubt.