Wall Street protesters: We're in for the long haul

[crazy canuck]

It wasn't called champagne was it? Cause if it wasn't from France that would be wrong. Wrong wrong wrong.

There is no such thing as Champagne that is not from France and so not only would it be wrong it would also be impossible.

[crazy canuck]

"corporate greed" is a meaningless catch phrase.

I'm not certain it's meaningless. You might for instance take a look at the notion of using bailout money for executive bonuses at a critical time in the economy and say "hmm, to my peepers, that looks a bit like corporate greed".

Then the chant should be "Executive Greed!" or "Better Corporate Governance!" or "Power to the Shareholders".  But that comes awfully close to suggesting a specific problem and an actual solution...

[Jacob]

First they would have to have a message.

"The system is fucked and regular folks are getting shafted" isn't a message?

Glad you liked the wine.

Me too

[fhdz]

Then the chant should be "Executive Greed!" or "Better Corporate Governance!" or "Power to the Shareholders".  But that comes awfully close to suggesting a specific problem and an actual solution...

I'm not suggesting it's the best chant. I'm suggesting it's not of necessity meaningless.

[Admiral Yi]

"The system is fucked and regular folks are getting shafted" isn't a message?

It's as much of a message as shouting "I'm unhappy" is a message.

To answer your previous question, the bare minimum for a reasonable protest IMO is one that advocates for or against a specific *policy.*  Get out of Iraq, don't raise tuition, decrease taxes--at least these tell you what the protesters want you to do.

Of course that leaves aside the issue that most protests are simplistic and infantile, but at least that's a start.

[fhdz]

It's as much of a message as shouting "I'm unhappy" is a message.

To answer your previous question, the bare minimum for a reasonable protest IMO is one that advocates for or against a specific *policy.*  Get out of Iraq, don't raise tuition, decrease taxes--at least these tell you what the protesters want you to do.

Of course that leaves aside the issue that most protests are simplistic and infantile, but at least that's a start.

What if there are multiple issues compounding the problem, though?

[Admiral Yi]

What if there are multiple issues compounding the problem, though?

Then you write an editorial or a book.  You don't chant a hundred slogans one after another while waiving a hundred different placards.

[Razgovory]

What if there are multiple issues compounding the problem, though?

Then you write an editorial or a book.  You don't chant a hundred slogans one after another while waiving a hundred different placards.

You could have said this during the Tea Party rallies.

[Ed Anger]

http://hotchicksofoccupywallstreet.tumblr.com/

[Admiral Yi]

You could have said this during the Tea Party rallies.

I must have missed the four week thread on Tea Party rallies.

[Jacob]

It's as much of a message as shouting "I'm unhappy" is a message.

I dunno. In a place where the government is by the people, for the people I think the fact that significant number of people are unhappy is an important message.

To answer your previous question, the bare minimum for a reasonable protest IMO is one that advocates for or against a specific *policy.*  Get out of Iraq, don't raise tuition, decrease taxes--at least these tell you what the protesters want you to do.

You genuinely don't have any notions what would make the protesters less unhappy?

Of course that leaves aside the issue that most protests are simplistic and infantile, but at least that's a start.

We can get back to that in a bit, if you'd like.

[Razgovory]

http://hotchicksofoccupywallstreet.tumblr.com/

I would call them all hot...

[Jacob]

I must have missed the four week thread on Tea Party rallies.

You don't recall languish discussion of tea party rallies? Or where the threads just too short to qualify?

[Ed Anger]

http://hotchicksofoccupywallstreet.tumblr.com/

I would call them all hot...

Some of them should stay inside.

[crazy canuck]

First they would have to have a message.

"The system is fucked and regular folks are getting shafted" isn't a message?

What system is fucked?  What regular folks are getting shafted?

The US system.  People in the US?  The Canadian system which is heavily subsidizing the education of most of the people I see outside my window?  How exactly are they getting shafted?