Wall Street protesters: We're in for the long haul

Started by garbon, October 02, 2011, 04:31:46 PM

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Grallon

#45
October 03, 2011, 06:50:00 PM
Quote from: DGuller on October 03, 2011, 06:43:13 PM
I'm going to assume that you vehemently disagreed with my post.


:rolleyes:



Can't you read?  Nevermind.




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Neil

#46
October 03, 2011, 07:06:12 PM
Quote from: Jacob on October 03, 2011, 01:56:44 PM
Quote from: Zoupa on October 03, 2011, 01:31:47 PM
There's some heartbreaking stories in there.
Yeah. I've been hanging out on a few other hobby sites and the number of stories of hardship and poverty in the US are pretty disconcerting. A couple of bad bounces in the job market or with health can apparently leave people in a really bad way.
Yeah.  US society is going to be a very interesting place in the next couple of decades, as the policies of the Democrats and the Republicans create an ever-larger underclass.
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Razgovory

#47
October 03, 2011, 07:18:38 PM
Quote from: DGuller on October 03, 2011, 06:43:13 PM
I'm going to assume that you vehemently disagreed with my post.

He seems unaware the Minsky is a Jewish lawyer.  He doesn't have handlers, is one of the handlers. :rolleyes:
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Habsburg

#48
October 03, 2011, 07:19:22 PM
These are probably the same filthy anarchists that threw paint on my free range, shade grown Chinchilla coat during WTO-Seattle.  :mad:

Ideologue

#49
October 03, 2011, 07:21:53 PM
Quote from: Habsburg on October 03, 2011, 07:19:22 PM
These are probably the same filthy anarchists that threw paint on my free range, shade grown Chinchilla coat during WTO-Seattle.  :mad:

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Razgovory

#50
October 03, 2011, 07:22:38 PM
Quote from: Habsburg on October 03, 2011, 07:19:22 PM
These are probably the same filthy anarchists that threw paint on my free range, shade grown Chinchilla coat during WTO-Seattle.  :mad:

Possibly the same ones that set off a bomb on Wall street a few years back.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Capetan Mihali

#51
October 03, 2011, 07:32:10 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on October 03, 2011, 05:51:58 PM
Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on October 03, 2011, 03:26:46 PM
Walls Street is just a symbol. A front for a system that is clearly in need of at least some refurbishement, at worst some major reconstruction.

Wall Street is a short, winding street in downtown Manhattan filled with Class B office buildings and some condo conversions.  If you take a right on Broad, you can take a tour of the New York Stock Exchange, where they make a nice little show ringing a bell, but in fact most of the trading is now done electronically.

It's probably a symbol for something but probably not what these guys think they are protesting.    It's fitting that the protests themselves are in Zucotti Park off of Liberty and Broadway, a few blocks away from the actual Broad Street.   They are really showing Men's Wearhouse and some cheap pizza place what's what.

They could have the protests in Flushing Meadows and they'd still be meaningful in the same way.  I don't get the topographic quibbling.  :mellow:   After 3 years of "Wall St. vs. Main St.", it's obvious that Wall St. has a symbolic meaning above and beyond describing a particular street in downtown Manhattan.
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Neil

#52
October 03, 2011, 07:33:28 PM
Quote from: Habsburg on October 03, 2011, 07:19:22 PM
These are probably the same filthy anarchists that threw paint on my free range, shade grown Chinchilla coat during WTO-Seattle.  :mad:
See, this is why I have some sympathy for concealed carry laws.
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Capetan Mihali

#53
October 03, 2011, 07:34:22 PM
Or maybe you mean they aren't inconveniencing the right people?  I agree wholeheartedly, they should move the protests to the home addresses of financiers from the UES to Greenwich.
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Neil

#54
October 03, 2011, 07:37:30 PM
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on October 03, 2011, 07:32:10 PM
They could have the protests in Flushing Meadows and they'd still be meaningful in the same way.  I don't get the topographic quibbling.  :mellow:   After 3 years of "Wall St. vs. Main St.", it's obvious that Wall St. has a symbolic meaning above and beyond describing a particular street in downtown Manhattan.
I'm not so sure.  Part of the problem is that they're protesters, and you can hardly go wrong opposing things that protesters are for.
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Neil

#55
October 03, 2011, 07:38:46 PM
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on October 03, 2011, 07:34:22 PM
Or maybe you mean they aren't inconveniencing the right people?  I agree wholeheartedly, they should move the protests to the home addresses of financiers from the UES to Greenwich.
Surely there are laws against that?
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Capetan Mihali

#56
October 03, 2011, 07:41:04 PM
Quote from: Neil on October 03, 2011, 07:38:46 PM
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on October 03, 2011, 07:34:22 PM
Or maybe you mean they aren't inconveniencing the right people?  I agree wholeheartedly, they should move the protests to the home addresses of financiers from the UES to Greenwich.
Surely there are laws against that?

Well the capitalist police state is already trying their hardest... could be difficult to contain with all the different policing jurisdictions...
"The internet's completely over. [...] The internet's like MTV. At one time MTV was hip and suddenly it became outdated. Anyway, all these computers and digital gadgets are no good. They just fill your head with numbers and that can't be good for you."
-- Prince, 2010. (R.I.P.)

Neil

#57
October 03, 2011, 08:00:10 PM
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on October 03, 2011, 07:41:04 PM
Quote from: Neil on October 03, 2011, 07:38:46 PM
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on October 03, 2011, 07:34:22 PM
Or maybe you mean they aren't inconveniencing the right people?  I agree wholeheartedly, they should move the protests to the home addresses of financiers from the UES to Greenwich.
Surely there are laws against that?
Well the capitalist police state is already trying their hardest... could be difficult to contain with all the different policing jurisdictions...
You can hardly blame them for trying, what with a group of dedicated crazies trying to intimidate and murder them.
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garbon

#58
October 03, 2011, 08:23:26 PM
Quote from: Neil on October 03, 2011, 07:33:28 PM
Quote from: Habsburg on October 03, 2011, 07:19:22 PM
These are probably the same filthy anarchists that threw paint on my free range, shade grown Chinchilla coat during WTO-Seattle.  :mad:
See, this is why I have some sympathy for concealed carry laws.

Won't it be disturbing if Park Avenuenites have to fortify their penthouses and acquire means of getting undesirables out of their castles?
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#59
October 03, 2011, 10:41:02 PM
Quote from: DGuller on October 03, 2011, 06:00:09 PM
Seems like the general feeling is that little people are allowed to sink, while financial types are bailed out, and then allowed to prosper without any paying back.  Wall Street in general is a symbol of socialism for the rich, capitalism for the poor, which is why it's being protested. 

It's about time for that, IMO.  That's what Tea Party should've been about, but in a twist of tragic irony, they became the most trusted tool of the people they claim to protest about.

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