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[Razgovory]

He and I will agree if the voluntary organizations exist in a land with out laws to coerce.

So we're back to all forms of government of socialist.

No, we are at all forms of government are coercive.  I don't know why you seem to think that socialism is uniquely coercive.

[Admiral Yi]

No, we are at all forms of government are coercive.  I don't know why you seem to think that socialism is uniquely coercive.

The first possible reason that comes to mind is because I don't.

[grumbler]

One more time:  if it's done without government ownership or coercion, it ain't socialist.  I know the cooperative aspects of credit unions appeal to your socialist sensibilities, but don't get carried away.

   I am taking it that you don't know what "socialist" means, rather than that you are simply ignoring what it means.  Socialism is a belief system; one element of it can be political beliefs, but one can hold socialist beliefs and carry out socialist actions without reference to politics, government, or coercion in any way. Do some research.  I think you will be surprised at what you learn, if you don't stop at bumper stickers.

[Razgovory]

No, we are at all forms of government are coercive.  I don't know why you seem to think that socialism is uniquely coercive.

The first possible reason that comes to mind is because I don't.

Then why do you keep harping on it not being socialist because it's not coercive?

[Admiral Yi]

Then why do you keep harping on it not being socialist because it's not coercive?

Sigh.

Socialism is generally considered a form of government.  Jake is trying to argue that voluntary organizations such as credit unions are socialist.  I'm arguing that they are not because, unlike socialist governments, they lack the ability to coerce behavior from members.

[Razgovory]

Then why do you keep harping on it not being socialist because it's not coercive?

Sigh.

Socialism is generally considered a form of government.  Jake is trying to argue that voluntary organizations such as credit unions are socialist.  I'm arguing that they are not because, unlike socialist governments, they lack the ability to coerce behavior from members.

Ah, I see the problem.  Socialism is not really a form of government any more then Capitalism is.

[Admiral Yi]

I think we're done.

[Razgovory]

I think we're done.

When you start learning what words mean, we can start again.  But I think if you do this the bridge will be gaped.

[Eddie Teach]

But I think if you do this the bridge will be gaped.

[grumbler]

Sigh.

Socialism is generally considered a form of government.  Jake is trying to argue that voluntary organizations such as credit unions are socialist.  I'm arguing that they are not because, unlike socialist governments, they lack the ability to coerce behavior from members.

I am quoting this just to preserve it, because some day you are going to deny ever saying anything so silly.

[Razgovory]

But I think if you do this the bridge will be gaped.

A little "p" goes a long way.

[Neil]

I think a lot of socialist thinkers would be surprised to hear someone say that socialism is a form of government.  It's an ideology with enormous variances in degree and application, and an ideology that has found wide acceptance throughout the entire world.

[grumbler]

I think a lot of socialist thinkers would be surprised to hear someone say that socialism is a form of government.  It's an ideology with enormous variances in degree and application, and an ideology that has found wide acceptance throughout the entire world.

Indeed.  In fact, I have never before heard the argument that, under the various Labor governments, the UK was not using the parliamentary form of government.

[Razgovory]

I think a lot of socialist thinkers would be surprised to hear someone say that socialism is a form of government.  It's an ideology with enormous variances in degree and application, and an ideology that has found wide acceptance throughout the entire world.

Indeed.  In fact, I have never before heard the argument that, under the various Labor governments, the UK was not using the parliamentary form of government.

I heard that when the Labor government took over in 1945 people were calling the US state department to ask if that meant that Britain had gone communist.

[Eddie Teach]

A little "p" goes a long way.

Just so long as it stays out of the pool.