Bank of America To Charge $5 Monthly Fee For Debit Card Usage

Started by garbon, September 29, 2011, 01:16:09 PM

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garbon

My credit union is for the families of employees or former employees of a large pharmaceutical company. :D
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I used to have an account at a credit union for employees at my grandfather's company.
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Quote from: Jacob on October 03, 2011, 11:58:36 AM
Credit Unions are a stellar example of successful social democrat principles in action :)

That they are.  Primarily because they're based on voluntary cooperation rather than coercion.  :)
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Jacob

Quote from: Habbaku on October 03, 2011, 04:26:09 PM
Quote from: Jacob on October 03, 2011, 11:58:36 AM
Credit Unions are a stellar example of successful social democrat principles in action :)

That they are.  Primarily because they're based on voluntary cooperation rather than coercion.  :)

Indeed :cheers:

It almost suggests that it's worthwhile to voluntarily engage in other forms of socialist organization.

garbon

My mother just sent an e-mail to all us kids about this - telling us to look into getting a debit card from our credit union. Tomorrow she is to inquire as to whether or not we are part of the exceptions to BofA's new policy. :D
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I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Habbaku

Quote from: Jacob on October 03, 2011, 05:08:20 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on October 03, 2011, 04:26:09 PM
Quote from: Jacob on October 03, 2011, 11:58:36 AM
Credit Unions are a stellar example of successful social democrat principles in action :)

That they are.  Primarily because they're based on voluntary cooperation rather than coercion.  :)

Indeed :cheers:

It almost suggests that it's worthwhile to voluntarily engage in other forms of socialist organization.

I have never denied it and, in fact, heartily encourage things like cooperatives, profit-sharing agreements, worker-ownership, etc..  I just despise any government force (outside of contract enforcement) coming in to make things that way.  :hug:
The medievals were only too right in taking nolo episcopari as the best reason a man could give to others for making him a bishop. Give me a king whose chief interest in life is stamps, railways, or race-horses; and who has the power to sack his Vizier (or whatever you care to call him) if he does not like the cut of his trousers.

Government is an abstract noun meaning the art and process of governing and it should be an offence to write it with a capital G or so as to refer to people.

-J. R. R. Tolkien

HisMajestyBOB

Since credit unions are, by and large, far better than banks, why does anyone use banks, at least for personal accounts?
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Habbaku

The medievals were only too right in taking nolo episcopari as the best reason a man could give to others for making him a bishop. Give me a king whose chief interest in life is stamps, railways, or race-horses; and who has the power to sack his Vizier (or whatever you care to call him) if he does not like the cut of his trousers.

Government is an abstract noun meaning the art and process of governing and it should be an offence to write it with a capital G or so as to refer to people.

-J. R. R. Tolkien

garbon

Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on October 03, 2011, 10:42:13 PM
Since credit unions are, by and large, far better than banks, why does anyone use banks, at least for personal accounts?

Well banks certainly have better geographic reach. Also aren't a lot of credit unions more exclusive - as in you have to fit specific criteria in order to be allowed to join (whether that be location based or company affiliation based - extended to kin).
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I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

HisMajestyBOB

Quote from: garbon on October 03, 2011, 10:59:31 PM
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on October 03, 2011, 10:42:13 PM
Since credit unions are, by and large, far better than banks, why does anyone use banks, at least for personal accounts?

Well banks certainly have better geographic reach. Also aren't a lot of credit unions more exclusive - as in you have to fit specific criteria in order to be allowed to join (whether that be location based or company affiliation based - extended to kin).

Ah, that makes some sense. I've heard some credit unions are now open to anyone, but I suppose having a nearby office is pretty important.
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Maximus

Quote from: garbon on October 03, 2011, 10:59:31 PM
Well banks certainly have better geographic reach. Also aren't a lot of credit unions more exclusive - as in you have to fit specific criteria in order to be allowed to join (whether that be location based or company affiliation based - extended to kin).
This seems to be the case in the US. It wasn't so in Canada. There credit unions collectively had a national reach, although each credit union individually was local. Some were very good, some quite terrible.

Of course, Canada also doesn't have local banks like here.

MadImmortalMan

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DontSayBanana

Up to $60 per year per card doesn't seem like it'll do much to offset any actual loss from card charges, especially when factoring in potential loss of customers.  It sounds more like a disincentive to me, and I've been hearing some rumblings that BoA might be doing it to convince customers on the borderline to carry a balance on a Bank of America credit card.
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DontSayBanana

Also, something that's always confused me: retail banks charge low-balance people an arm and a leg when they're orders of magnitude more likely to need to count pennies.  The regressivity is insane, much steeper than any tax regressivity in the United States.  I understand the rationale is that the low-balance customers are high-risk, but by waiving the fees for high-balance account and putting the operation fees on the shoulders of the high-risk, low-balance accounts, aren't the banks basically taking a big gamble and making it even bigger?
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Eddie Teach

Quote from: DontSayBanana on October 04, 2011, 09:20:40 AM
I understand the rationale is that the low-balance customers are high-risk,

Risk of what?

I believe the rationale is that the high balance customer is loaning the bank money for free, which the bank can turn around and loan out with interest. So they are already off-setting their service costs.
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