France Bans Public Prayer

[Razgovory]

I agree. However, I seem to remember that many Languishites from the US argued exactly the opposite when it came to the Dutch banning halal/kosher slaughter - if my memory serves me right, these people argued in favour of a religious exception. I understand you disagree.

I never got an answer on Viking on how recreational fishing squares with his accusations of "barbaric torture" that is kosher slaughter.  I pressed him, and he just sort of vanished.  Then we had a libertarian show up.

[Ideologue]

People who are saying that religious practices are just fine in public spaces: if my religious practices included ritual sacrifice of goats, you would be just fine with me doing it on the sidewalk in Times Square as long as I didn't block any traffic?

Because that was, in fact, what happened in Moscow during the Eid celebration a while ago.

I think the point is that the question of whether one should be allowed to slaughter a goat on a sidewalk should be completely independent of whether it's a religious practice.

I agree. However, I seem to remember that many Languishites from the US argued exactly the opposite when it came to the Dutch banning halal/kosher slaughter - if my memory serves me right, these people argued in favour of a religious exception. I understand you disagree.

I like how you are pinning that point of view on just the American posters.

Particularly when some would hardly hold it.

[Ed Anger]

The agony makes the kosher tastier.

[Tamas]

America should give up war on drugs and then start mentoring others about "people being allowed to be morons".

In Europe, we consider religions more socially damaging than drugs. 

Couldn't agree more about the drug bit.  But um...drugs are still illegal in Euroland last I checked.

They are not criminalized in Portugal, several European countries do not outlaw (or prosecute) possession of small amounts "for personal uses"  and most European countries do not prosecute drug users with half of the zeal that the US has.

yeah but that is also kinda retarded isn't it? You dont punish personal use (which I am fine with), but you punish selling it. How the fuck are you supposed to get it for personal use then?

[Eddie Teach]

yeah but that is also kinda retarded isn't it? You dont punish personal use (which I am fine with), but you punish selling it. How the fuck are you supposed to get it for personal use then?

It's kind of like how the cops ignore you driving 5 miles over the speed limit, ticket you going 20 miles over and may arrest you going 50 miles over.

[Barrister]

America should give up war on drugs and then start mentoring others about "people being allowed to be morons".

In Europe, we consider religions more socially damaging than drugs. 

Couldn't agree more about the drug bit.  But um...drugs are still illegal in Euroland last I checked.

They are not criminalized in Portugal, several European countries do not outlaw (or prosecute) possession of small amounts "for personal uses"  and most European countries do not prosecute drug users with half of the zeal that the US has.

yeah but that is also kinda retarded isn't it? You dont punish personal use (which I am fine with), but you punish selling it. How the fuck are you supposed to get it for personal use then?

Well they don't want you to get it for personal use.  They're still trying to discourage drug use, they've just chosen a different approach in how to do it.

I don't know how it works in Portugal, but when the previous Liberal government announced plans to decriminalize marijuana it created a lot of confusion among people who thought it was now perfectly legal - and those were just announced plans that never came into being.

[dps]

America should give up war on drugs and then start mentoring others about "people being allowed to be morons".

In Europe, we consider religions more socially damaging than drugs. 

Couldn't agree more about the drug bit.  But um...drugs are still illegal in Euroland last I checked.

They are not criminalized in Portugal, several European countries do not outlaw (or prosecute) possession of small amounts "for personal uses"  and most European countries do not prosecute drug users with half of the zeal that the US has.

yeah but that is also kinda retarded isn't it? You dont punish personal use (which I am fine with), but you punish selling it. How the fuck are you supposed to get it for personal use then?

Grow your own.

[HVC]

But then you have more then the "legal limit" and are charged as a dealer.

[Ideologue]

Yeah, I agree that while in practice it's probably better than the American system (what couldn't be?), but it's still pretty stupid.