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Started by alfred russel, September 12, 2011, 06:47:46 AM

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Quote from: DGuller on September 14, 2011, 12:27:25 PM
So, if the tickets were $27,000,000 each, the company would still pay?

If it were essential for $50,000,000 worth of business, then I daresay yes, they would.
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Quote from: Warspite on September 14, 2011, 01:02:03 PM
Quote from: DGuller on September 14, 2011, 12:27:25 PM
So, if the tickets were $27,000,000 each, the company would still pay?

If it were essential for $50,000,000 worth of business, then I daresay yes, they would.

$27,000,000 each for two tickets would be...$54,000,000.  I submit to you that it would not be worth paying for the tickets to generate $50,000,000 of business.

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Quote from: DGuller on September 14, 2011, 12:27:25 PM
So, if the tickets were $27,000,000 each, the company would still pay?

Tickets don't cost that much, so no. A policy might be, "you have to use a certain travel agency, you must take the cheapest direct flight, and you can fly business class if the flight is over 5 hours." That might get you a $15k ticket, but you should stay under $27 mill.
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Anyway, that all sounds so alien to me.  I haven't had chance to incur too many expenses on my job, but pretty much every time I incur an expense, I have to confirm with my boss or boss's boss that the expense is both reasonable, and the most cost-effective option. 

If I had to travel somewhere, and asked to approve a $20,000 business class ticket, I would be politely but firmly asked to fly coach instead.  The management is ultimately reponsible for all the expenses incurred by people in their departments, so blank checks are not given out.

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Quote from: DGuller on September 14, 2011, 01:10:08 PM
Anyway, that all sounds so alien to me.  I haven't had chance to incur too many expenses on my job, but pretty much every time I incur an expense, I have to confirm with my boss or boss's boss that the expense is both reasonable, and the most cost-effective option. 

If I had to travel somewhere, and asked to approve a $20,000 business class ticket, I would be politely but firmly asked to fly coach instead.  The management is ultimately reponsible for all the expenses incurred by people in their departments, so blank checks are not given out.

You have to approach this in steps: first, you get a travel policy that eliminates the need for preapprovals and allows premium travel, then you develop a management accounting system that allows you to charge the travel expenses to the cost center you are doing the work in (ie, not your own), then you promote a collaborative culture based on face to face meetings that gets people traveling throughout the organization and hooked on airline miles.

Finally, when you invite in consultants to find cost saving opportunities, be sure to bring in top of the line firms that will be traveling in premium seats, and make sure that they do a bit of traveling on your company's dime before making any recommendations.

Do those things, and you will be dropping 5 figures on airline tickets in no time.
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

There's a fine line between salvation and drinking poison in the jungle.

I'm embarrassed. I've been making the mistake of associating with you. It won't happen again. :)
-garbon, February 23, 2014