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Started by jimmy olsen, September 07, 2011, 06:21:01 PM

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jimmy olsen

Behold the pussification of American youth. :weep:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2011/08/31/a_1979_first_grade_readiness_checklist_asks_if_your_child_can_tr.html#article_comment_box
QuoteIs your child ready for first grade? Earlier this month, Chicago Now blogger Christine Whitley reprinted a checklist from a 1979 child-rearing series designed to help a parent figure that one out. Ten out of 12 meant readiness. Can your child "draw and color and stay within the lines of the design being colored?" Of course. Can she count "eight to ten pennies correctly?" Heck, yeah, I say for parents of kindergarteners everywhere. "Does your child try to write or copy letters or numbers?" Isn't that what preschool is for?

"Can he travel alone in the neighborhood (four to eight blocks) to store, school, playground, or to a friend's home?"

It's amazing what a difference 30 years have made. Academically, that 1979 first grader (who also needed to be "six years, six months" old and "have two to five permanent or second teeth") would have been considered right on target to start preschool. In terms of life skills, she's heading for middle school, riding her two-wheeled bike and finding her own way home.
It's not surprising that I came to this link via Lenore Skenazy's Free-Range Kids blog. What is surprising is just how shocking a jolt it is to realize how stark the difference is between then and now.

I'd probably be considered a free-range parent by today's standards; I've allowed a 7-year-old to walk to a friend's house unaccompanied and left a 9-year-old in charge of siblings. But the idea of a kindergartener walking "four to eight blocks" alone? Crossing streets? Turning corners? Even though I suspect I did it myself, I can't get my head around it. I have two kindergarteners this year (and one will be 6 in just a few weeks), and I check on them if I let them walk solo to the bookstore's bathroom. Yesterday, I watched one of them get lost in the grocery store, trying to go two aisles over to the freezer section, where she'd been not 30 seconds before. Two to four blocks?

But there it is, in the middle of the list, as though the ability to find your way around your world at 6 years old was quite ordinary. The country isn't different (Skenazy points out that crime rates are actually lower overall than they were in 1979). We're different, and not just as parents. A commenter to the post points out that her children's school doesn't allow students to walk home alone (even with an older sibling) until fifth grade. And it's a difference most parents are aware of already. But to see it laid out so clearly is to remember that it wasn't just my own mother who expected more from me than I expect from my own kids, but all the mothers. I'm not suggesting we loose our kindergarteners on our neighborhoods, and I don't plan to send mine romping any further than the yard. But I will try to broaden my ideas of what else they're capable of—besides math and reading—this year.


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More like you perverts who were kids in the late 70's grew up to be gross perverts and pedophiles.   :P
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I suggested that my 3 nieces & nephews play alone in the yard the other day. You'd think I was crazy.
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Are the terms "helicopter parent" and "curling parent" in general use btw?
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mongers

Quote from: Grey Fox on September 07, 2011, 06:30:55 PM
I wish.

I suggested that my 3 nieces & nephews play alone in the yard the other day. You'd think I was crazy.

:blink:

Yep, in some ways a strange world we live in.

And it's over here as well, I know a 13-14 year old whose met by a parent at the bus stop, 300 yards from home and the kid is actually taller and bigger than the parent !
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Quote from: mongers on September 07, 2011, 06:38:04 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on September 07, 2011, 06:30:55 PM
I wish.

I suggested that my 3 nieces & nephews play alone in the yard the other day. You'd think I was crazy.

:blink:

Yep, in some ways a strange world we live in.

And it's over here a well, I know a 13-14 year old whose met by a parent at the bus stop, 300 yards from home and the kid is actually taller and bigger than the parent !

Taller and stronger, maybe, but he's also emotionally crippled by insane parenting. He needs that escort.
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Quote from: Razgovory on September 07, 2011, 07:04:32 PM
I was not a child in 1979.

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Quote from: Ed Anger on September 07, 2011, 07:20:47 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on September 07, 2011, 07:04:32 PM
I was not a child in 1979.

I was, and we stood astride the world like a Colossus.

I was a child in the later half of '81.  It took me a while before I could do much striding though.  I didn't learn to walk for a long time.  My mother thought there was something wrong with me.  I forgot how this story ends.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

sbr

I was 9 in 1979.  I would take off my my bike and my friends and be gone all day with no way to get in touch with anyone or any way for them to find me. 

I get nervous when my high school aged daughters are home 10 minutes late and they both carry cell phones.  :blush:

mongers

Quote from: sbr on September 07, 2011, 07:59:34 PM
I was 9 in 1979.  I would take off my my bike and my friends and be gone all day with no way to get in touch with anyone or any way for them to find me. 

I get nervous when my high school aged daughters are home 10 minutes late and they both carry cell phones.  :blush:

Where does this fear come from ?
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