T-62 armor beats anything we have, I know because I left the Rangers for armor

[Habbaku]

The end of a sentence only needs one period.

[Barrister]

The end of a sentence only needs one period.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellipsis

[Habbaku]

The end of a sentence only needs one period.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellipsis

So, basically, you think he just has an attention-span issue?  I can see that, I suppose.

[grumbler]

The 76mm version of the M4 started production in February 1944.  Some of them were available to units in Normandy.

My point is that it appears that the 90mm gun used in the M36 could be fitted instead of the 76mm gun (and was, in fact, so fitted in the version of the M4 know as the M36B1) but this was not pursued due to inefficiencies in the US Army's bureaucracy.

Tanks with the 75mm gun could not be so retrofitted (though some were retrofitted to 76mm guns, but not very satisfactorily due to turret size issues).

[The Brain]

yi has a 76mm gun

[11B4V]

Can someone enlighten me about what's wrong with leaving the rangers for armour? 

I would say that going from Ranger to Armor is one big step back. Something no true infantryman would do.

Well put Siege.

[grumbler]

I would say that going from Ranger to Armor is one big step back. Something no true infantryman would do.

Well put Siege.

Indeed.  I haven't seen the "No true Scotsman" fallacy so nakedly espoused in ages.  Most people know better.

[Razgovory]

I'd rather be in the tank.  You get to sit down while you fight.  Also, bullets aren't as likely to hurt you.

[Ed Anger]

I'd rather be in a trailer in the States flying a drone. Get fancy ribbon for 'flying' missions. Get medal at Chucky Cheese after mission.

[CountDeMoney]

There is no such thing as a standard M4 Sherman.

The M4 Sherman RS.

[Siege]

yi has a 76mm gun

Faggot, use your right hand to grasp the small of the stock and hold it against the right side of your waist. The butt of the stock will extend to the rear of your buttox. Use your left arm. Slightly bent at the elbow. Grasp the weapon just below the swing swivel using your left hand. Turn the weapon so the magazine well is facing down. Raise the bayonet to throat level. Place your feet together as done for the position of attention at a halt.

[Siege]

I'd rather be in the tank.  You get to sit down while you fight.  Also, bullets aren't as likely to hurt you.

That's the whole point. With the kind of wars we are fighting these days tank crewmen don't do much.
Why would I submit my life to live under military discipline, working endless hours, no overtime, etc, if I am not going to get the oportunity to make a diference and wack the enemy?

Said that, 19 Kilos when they deploy have to go out and patrol in Hummvees. Yeah, they don't get the real bad AOs, but still.
You know, 19 Kilos have a saying: "I don't carry my weapon, my weapon carries me". To that I say "Fuck no, I carry my fucking weapon!"

Gotta go. Shabbat coming up.

[Razgovory]

I'd rather be in the tank.  You get to sit down while you fight.  Also, bullets aren't as likely to hurt you.

That's the whole point. With the kind of wars we are fighting these days tank crewmen don't do much.
Why would I submit my life to live under military discipline, working endless hours, no overtime, etc, if I am not going to get the oportunity to make a diference and wack the enemy?

Said that, 19 Kilos when they deploy have to go out and patrol in Hummvees. Yeah, they don't get the real bad AOs, but still.
You know, 19 Kilos have a saying: "I don't carry my weapon, my weapon carries me". To that I say "Fuck no, I carry my fucking weapon!"

Gotta go. Shabbat coming up.

Do they get air conditioning?

[Mr.Penguin]

The 76mm version of the M4 started production in February 1944.  Some of them were available to units in Normandy.

The M4 shermans with the 76mm gun avaliable in Normandy was of the early type, with one copula turrets and the cut down version of the 76mm gun, the barrel length was reduced with 15 inches (38cm), neutered version of the 76mm gun...   

My point is that it appears that the 90mm gun used in the M36 could be fitted instead of the 76mm gun (and was, in fact, so fitted in the version of the M4 know as the M36B1) but this was not pursued due to inefficiencies in the US Army's bureaucracy.

The M36B1 GMC was a M4A3 hull with the open top turret of the M36 GMC, build as a stop gab measure from October 1944 due to the urgent need for 90mm armed TD's. So the M36B1 is still an open top TD, little different from the standard M36 GMC, apart the better protected hull...

The key to having M4 Shermans armed with the 90mm gun early on, is the T-23 turret and whether or not the 90mm gun could be fitted in it. The T-23 turret was as mentioned earlier from the T-23 medium Tank project, a project that was cleared for limited production in May 1943. So quite early on do we have a turret, for the m4 Sherman, that might be able fit the 90mm or at least a cut down version of it...

In short is it about politics and Lesley McNair's constant resistance against the need for a better Tank gun than the 75mm...

[The Brain]

yi has a 76mm gun

Faggot, use your right hand to grasp the small of the stock and hold it against the right side of your waist. The butt of the stock will extend to the rear of your buttox. Use your left arm. Slightly bent at the elbow. Grasp the weapon just below the swing swivel using your left hand. Turn the weapon so the magazine well is facing down. Raise the bayonet to throat level. Place your feet together as done for the position of attention at a halt.

OK. Now what?