Canada to firmly re-assess its status as a British colony

[HVC]

Viper, you are normally a very reasonable person, but you seem really weird on this stuff.

I used to think he was more along the grey fox vein. still no where near grallon. He just really hates the queen, it seems lol

[Grey Fox]

What's my vein?

Viper is way more to the right than I'll ever tolerate to be.

[Razgovory]

What's my vein?

Viper is way more to the right than I'll ever tolerate to be.

I have no idea how vipers opinion appear on the left-right spectrum.  I'm not a Canadian, so it comes off as really weird to me.

[Barrister]

The GG would NOT take over the country in a time of crisis.  I have no idea where you got that from.

If there's a break in the government, the GG takes over, and he's the Commander in Chief too.
See this part of a nice Wikipedia piece:
However, the Royal Prerogative belongs to the Crown and not to any of the ministers,[5][118][130] and the royal and viceroyal figures may unilaterally use these powers in exceptional constitutional crisis situations

There's no additional cost - the government has tons of portraits of the Queen - they cost pennies to make a new print.

We have tons of that stuff? Where did we get all that?   When she was 16 or something?  How could we live without her portrait everywhere during all that time?

Dude - they're photographs.  How much do you think it costs to make prints of a photo?

Somewhere along the line they get Her Majesty to pose in front of a Canadian flag, and that picture is used in all government buildings.  There was one in the Federal building in Whitehorse, for example.

As for the rest - it's a purely theoretical power that has never once been exercised in all of Canadian history.

[Valmy]

The Canadian Monarch is the head of our state. she just happens to be the british monarch too

You mean her Majesty, Queen of Jamaica?

[viper37]

Dude - they're photographs.  How much do you think it costs to make prints of a photo?

You have to pay royalties to the artist for every print.  There's no small economies.  If you keep thinking "oh, it's only a million$, oh it's only 3 guys to do the job of one in one place", you'll never achieve zero deficit without raising taxes.

Somewhere along the line they get Her Majesty to pose in front of a Canadian flag, and that picture is used in all government buildings.  There was one in the Federal building in Whitehorse, for example.

It's still archaic.  A foreign Queen to rule an independant country, and people seem to be so proud of this that they need to shove it down our throats everywhere in the government.  C'mon, a foreign Queen is about as archaic as wearing a wig in court...

It's sad it was my great grand mother who had the american nationality.  I could have used a second passport right about now.  meh.

As for the rest - it's a purely theoretical power that has never once been exercised in all of Canadian history.

But it's still there.  And it's not her majesty Elizabeth II who'd be ruling the country, but the governor general.  It's still silly to have an unlected official weild any kind of theoritical power in the government, but at leas, the GG is nominated by the elected Prime Minister and his cabinet.  Unlike the foreign monarch for whom we have no control over.  If the British parliament got tired of their regent, they could find a way to force him/her to abdicate the throne.  But we hold absolutely zero power, theoritical or otherwise.  And we're supposed to be proud of this?  I don't get this fetish.  Like many others, actually, but that's beside the point.

[Razgovory]

You have to pay royalties to the artist for every print.  There's no small economies.  If you keep thinking "oh, it's only a million$, oh it's only 3 guys to do the job of one in one place", you'll never achieve zero deficit without raising taxes.

The government will have to pay royalties to itself?  In the US at least a posed portrait for the President, Governor, Senator etc. are owned by the government and are public domain.  I suspect that most embassies already have frames and possibly pictures sitting around.  I doubt its going  to cost much money.  It's like complaining about the cost of putting up flags in front of embassies  And the possibility of paying royalties to the flag owner.  After your first sentence I have no idea what the hell you are going on about.  So this post was a response only to the first sentence.

[Valmy]

A foreign Queen to rule an independant country

Wow.  What a whiner.

The Queen of Canada doesn't rule shit she is the national mascot.  And being a foreigner is a benefit.  The best monarchs are ones who are not physically present.

[Viking]

from the Wiki article on the monarchy debate in Canada

Alistair Horne observed in the late 1950s that, while Canada's cultural mix grew, the monarchy remained held in high regard: "At its lowest common denominator, to the average Canadian — whether of British, French or Ukrainian extraction — the Crown is the one thing that he has that the rich and mighty Americans have not got. It makes him feel a little superior." However, at the same time, he noted that the institution was coming more into question in Quebec and that it was sometimes perceived as having a "colonial taint", but theorises that this was because Canadians had an inferiority complex in relation to the British.[6]

Apart from nailing the role of the monarchy as part of the Canadian self image vis a vis America and Britain I want to know how, in the 1950's, Ukrainian rates a mention as the third Canadian nationality?

[viper37]

The best monarchs are ones who are not physically present.

I agree with that   Wich is why we should ditch royalty.

[Malthus]

Apart from nailing the role of the monarchy as part of the Canadian self image vis a vis America and Britain I want to know how, in the 1950's, Ukrainian rates a mention as the third Canadian nationality?

Lots of Ukranians immigrated to the west of Canada, to grow wheat. I dunno if they were third in the '50s - I doubt it - but there were lots of them.

[Ed Anger]

Somebody had to clean the toilets.

[Barrister]

Apart from nailing the role of the monarchy as part of the Canadian self image vis a vis America and Britain I want to know how, in the 1950's, Ukrainian rates a mention as the third Canadian nationality?

We are legion.

[crazy canuck]

from the Wiki article on the monarchy debate in Canada

Alistair Horne observed in the late 1950s that, while Canada's cultural mix grew, the monarchy remained held in high regard: "At its lowest common denominator, to the average Canadian — whether of British, French or Ukrainian extraction — the Crown is the one thing that he has that the rich and mighty Americans have not got. It makes him feel a little superior." However, at the same time, he noted that the institution was coming more into question in Quebec and that it was sometimes perceived as having a "colonial taint", but theorises that this was because Canadians had an inferiority complex in relation to the British.[6]

Apart from nailing the role of the monarchy as part of the Canadian self image vis a vis America and Britain I want to know how, in the 1950's, Ukrainian rates a mention as the third Canadian nationality?

If you had traveled through the West in the 50s you would have come across many communities which were created largely by Ukranian settlers and where Ukranian was still spoken by large numbers of people.   Back then it was a significant minority language.

Now the Ukranian descendants are not as distinct, except for a compulsion to wear pleated pants, and certainly not as distinct as other more recent immigrant communities.

[Viking]

from the Wiki article on the monarchy debate in Canada

Alistair Horne observed in the late 1950s that, while Canada's cultural mix grew, the monarchy remained held in high regard: "At its lowest common denominator, to the average Canadian — whether of British, French or Ukrainian extraction — the Crown is the one thing that he has that the rich and mighty Americans have not got. It makes him feel a little superior." However, at the same time, he noted that the institution was coming more into question in Quebec and that it was sometimes perceived as having a "colonial taint", but theorises that this was because Canadians had an inferiority complex in relation to the British.[6]

Apart from nailing the role of the monarchy as part of the Canadian self image vis a vis America and Britain I want to know how, in the 1950's, Ukrainian rates a mention as the third Canadian nationality?

If you had traveled through the West in the 50s you would have come across many communities which were created largely by Ukranian settlers and where Ukranian was still spoken by large numbers of people.   Back then it was a significant minority language.

Now the Ukranian descendants are not as distinct, except for a compulsion to wear pleated pants, and certainly not as distinct as other more recent immigrant communities.

So, basically they are Anglo-Canadians now?