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[Slargos]

That's funny. Sweden had crushing hunger and poverty in the 19th century, yet I must've completely missed the extremism that resulted from it.

Might be a failure of my meager education, however, I will admit.

Perhaps you can enlighten me, Martinus?

[Martinus]

That's funny. Sweden had crushing hunger and poverty in the 19th century, yet I must've completely missed the extremism that resulted from it.

Might be a failure of my meager education, however, I will admit.

Perhaps you can enlighten me, Martinus?

I'm sure 19th century Sweden is an apt analogy for 21st century Somalia, but I do not immediately see it. Perhaps you can enlighten me, Slargos?

[Slargos]

That's funny. Sweden had crushing hunger and poverty in the 19th century, yet I must've completely missed the extremism that resulted from it.

Might be a failure of my meager education, however, I will admit.

Perhaps you can enlighten me, Martinus?

I'm sure 19th century Sweden is an apt analogy for 21st century Somalia, but I do not immediately see it. Perhaps you can enlighten me, Slargos?

You make the blanket statement, you lie on the filthy bed.

[Martinus]

You make the blanket statement, you lie on the filthy bed.

I thought you considered grumbler to be an idiot when he argues the way you just did.

[Slargos]

You make the blanket statement, you lie on the filthy bed.

I thought you considered grumbler to be an idiot when he argues the way you just did.

When you turn around a causal relationship like a goddamned fucktard, there's every excuse.

[HVC]

The way i see it poverty on its own doesn't create extremism. 19th century sweden sucked? guess what, 19th centaury anywhere sucked. it's poverty in contrast to others wealth (or apparent wealth) that pisses everyone off. starving somali sees a western movie or commercial, or any media really, and it looks like everyone is loaded. then he gets pissed. French revolution same shit. poor can't eat, rish building guilded palaces, heads come off. You can find other examples.

That's not to say that's the only cause of extremism, but Marti isn't way off in his view. Still doubt he'll give money to the poor somali's to stop their plight and segue into extremism.

[Siege]

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The smartest thing you have said (well, put in pictures) in ages. Crushing poverty and hunger breeds extremism.

You do realize how retarded you sound, right?

Terrorists are middle and upper class.
The lowest classes are terrorists only if palestinians.
Other muslim lower classes have little if any participation in terrorist activities.
They are too poor to worry about ideology.
Like Karl Marx said, "a man have to eat and dress, then think of communism".

[Razgovory]

That's funny. Sweden had crushing hunger and poverty in the 19th century, yet I must've completely missed the extremism that resulted from it.

Might be a failure of my meager education, however, I will admit.

Perhaps you can enlighten me, Martinus?

Would anyone have even noticed if Sweden had extremism?  Maybe it had extremism, but in the real world nobody noticed or cared.  Didn't half the country break away and become Norway in 1905 or something?

[grumbler]

"If you think people shouldn't be murdered by those stronger than them, why don't you stop murdering the weaker than you, rather than insisting everyone should do that?" would be an equally idiotic question.

Exactly! Thank you.

Well, at least we found someone who can swallow Marti's absurd analogies! 

[Drakken]

Would anyone have even noticed if Sweden had extremism?  Maybe it had extremism, but in the real world nobody noticed or cared.  Didn't half the country break away and become Norway in 1905 or something?

Even that was fairly benign, it was more of a divorce than a secession. Besides, odds are Sweden would have lost a Reconquest war with Norway.

Swedes who were starving (and no, they weren't really starving to death, just witnessing a long series of drought in a backward society) had one big neon-beaming option - leaving for America, where settlers were wanted and invited. Somalian starvers, not so much. No one wants colonies of flies in their backyards, and migrating somewhere else in Africa only means a continuation of starvation in the desert.

[Malthus]

Would anyone have even noticed if Sweden had extremism?  Maybe it had extremism, but in the real world nobody noticed or cared.  Didn't half the country break away and become Norway in 1905 or something?

Even that was fairly benign, it was more of a divorce than a secession. Besides, odds are Sweden would have lost a Reconquest war with Norway.

Swedes who were starving (and no, they weren't really starving to death, just witnessing a long series of drought in a backward society) had one big neon-beaming option - leaving for America, where settlers were wanted and invited. Somalian starvers, not so much. No one wants colonies of flies in their backyards, and migrating somewhere else in Africa only means a continuation of starvation in the desert.

One interesting bit of trivia is that in the late 19th/early 20th century in North America, Swedes were discriminated against on the basis of their alleged stupidity. You can see references to this in the short stories of Jack London and poetry of Robert Service.

The "Dumb Swede" was a stock character.

[The Brain]

Swedes who were starving (and no, they weren't really starving to death,

[HVC]

Would anyone have even noticed if Sweden had extremism?  Maybe it had extremism, but in the real world nobody noticed or cared.  Didn't half the country break away and become Norway in 1905 or something?

Even that was fairly benign, it was more of a divorce than a secession. Besides, odds are Sweden would have lost a Reconquest war with Norway.

Swedes who were starving (and no, they weren't really starving to death, just witnessing a long series of drought in a backward society) had one big neon-beaming option - leaving for America, where settlers were wanted and invited. Somalian starvers, not so much. No one wants colonies of flies in their backyards, and migrating somewhere else in Africa only means a continuation of starvation in the desert.

One interesting bit of trivia is that in the late 19th/early 20th century in North America, Swedes were discriminated against on the basis of their alleged stupidity. You can see references to this in the short stories of Jack London and poetry of Robert Service.

The "Dumb Swede" was a stock character.

Still lives in the dumb Minnesotan stereotype.

[The Brain]

Would anyone have even noticed if Sweden had extremism?  Maybe it had extremism, but in the real world nobody noticed or cared.  Didn't half the country break away and become Norway in 1905 or something?

Even that was fairly benign, it was more of a divorce than a secession. Besides, odds are Sweden would have lost a Reconquest war with Norway.

Swedes who were starving (and no, they weren't really starving to death, just witnessing a long series of drought in a backward society) had one big neon-beaming option - leaving for America, where settlers were wanted and invited. Somalian starvers, not so much. No one wants colonies of flies in their backyards, and migrating somewhere else in Africa only means a continuation of starvation in the desert.

One interesting bit of trivia is that in the late 19th/early 20th century in North America, Swedes were discriminated against on the basis of their alleged stupidity. You can see references to this in the short stories of Jack London and poetry of Robert Service.

The "Dumb Swede" was a stock character.

We worked hard though. I'm like an anti-Swede.

[DGuller]

I don't mind paying high taxes. I'm a selfish bastard but I don't mind limiting my own wealth as long as everyone else does the same.

I have never understood this logic.  Michael Moore wants sick people to have cheap health care.  Warren Buffet wants teachers to be paid more.  Why don't they write a check?  If the basic premise is correct, that these outcomes are morally superior, then why do they require the coerced participation of other people?

And I never understood the logic you employ.  Both Moore and Buffett are making arguments about how a system should be set up, not about what people should do voluntarily.  Systems require coercion.  Your argument is pretty much the same as the argument that goes like "Think taxes should be higher?  Why don't you donate to the Treasury?"