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Started by jimmy olsen, July 21, 2011, 08:38:46 PM

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Malthus

Quote from: Razgovory on July 21, 2011, 10:24:16 PM
Quote from: Neil on July 21, 2011, 10:19:30 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on July 21, 2011, 10:09:01 PM
Quote from: Neil on July 21, 2011, 10:00:21 PM
Wasn't this mega-illegal or something when the Americans did it?

When the Americans did what?  Cremate Hess and throw him in the sea?  I thought that was something you could do only once.
bin Laden.

That was just the story for public consumption.  They took his body to the White House where Obama ate his heart and gained his power.

I thought he threw away the body but saved his skull for use as an inkwell.

After all, there is preceident.

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derspiess

Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 21, 2011, 08:38:46 PM
Why the hell would Neo-Nazis visit his grave? I knew they were stupid, but that's just retarded.

It's something for them to cling to.  Hess was the last surviving member of Hitler's staff, so for decades while he was locked away in Spandau prison he was in their minds a part of the Reich that lived on.  And I guess that personality cult continued after his death. 

Yeah, he technically did betray Hitler and the Reich, but in his mind he was doing a service to both by making his bizarre flight.  I'm guessing the conspiracy theories & the decades that passed following the war made it easier for neo-nazis to 'rehabilitate' him as one of their own.

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CountDeMoney

Quote from: derspiess on July 22, 2011, 10:07:36 AM
so for decades while he was locked away in Spandau prison

Martinus has been locked up in Spandau Ballet prison.


Malthus

Quote from: derspiess on July 22, 2011, 10:07:36 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 21, 2011, 08:38:46 PM
Why the hell would Neo-Nazis visit his grave? I knew they were stupid, but that's just retarded.

It's something for them to cling to.  Hess was the last surviving member of Hitler's staff, so for decades while he was locked away in Spandau prison he was in their minds a part of the Reich that lived on.  And I guess that personality cult continued after his death. 

Yeah, he technically did betray Hitler and the Reich, but in his mind he was doing a service to both by making his bizarre flight.  I'm guessing the conspiracy theories & the decades that passed following the war made it easier for neo-nazis to 'rehabilitate' him as one of their own.

Great. They fetishize a guy even other Nazis thought was a retard.  :D

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane—Marcus Aurelius

Valmy

Quote from: Josephus on July 22, 2011, 08:31:21 AM
Completely different. The Americans went in and executed Bin Laden without bringing him to trial.

He was shot trying to escape!
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Josephus

Quote from: Valmy on July 22, 2011, 10:16:51 AM
Quote from: Josephus on July 22, 2011, 08:31:21 AM
Completely different. The Americans went in and executed Bin Laden without bringing him to trial.

He was shot trying to escape!

I thought he was just on the verge of launching another 9-11 just seconds before the US marines, led by Jack Bauer, shot him.
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CountDeMoney

Should've done everyone a bigger favor, and shot Leon Hess.

Valmy

Quote from: Josephus on July 22, 2011, 10:30:54 AM
I thought he was just on the verge of launching another 9-11 just seconds before the US marines, led by Jack Bauer, shot him.

The US Marines?!  WTF?
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Ed Anger

Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 22, 2011, 10:09:39 AM
Quote from: derspiess on July 22, 2011, 10:07:36 AM
so for decades while he was locked away in Spandau prison

Martinus has been locked up in Spandau Ballet prison.



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syk

Not the worst thing to remove his grave. In 1994 I drove back home from Prague passing Wunsiedel the very weekend the nazis wanted to march there. Didn't get at first why the border controls took so long and every car was checked. The obvious longhaired leftie I was and with this sticker on the car we could pass quickly. The next few roadhouses along the autobahn up north were all packed with not so friendly looking skinheads, so the need to pee had to be sucked up till Kassel.   <_< That night on TV they showed that a bunch of them went to Luxemburg instead for their march, where the police just handcuffed and piled them up to send them home. One policeman's comment to one of the baldies was something like "Stop whining tough guy." A sight for sore eyes.  :lol:

Jacob

Quote from: Razgovory on July 21, 2011, 10:08:00 PMI think it's common in Europe, where people can't stand the idea of someone only a bit of land.

In the US, do you keep your plot of land in the cemetery in perpetuity?

In Europe there's a time limt on it, otherwise they'll run out of land to bury people. I'd assumed it was the same in the US, but your comment suggests that it's not the case?

Valmy

Quote from: Jacob on July 22, 2011, 12:39:46 PM
In Europe there's a time limt on it, otherwise they'll run out of land to bury people. I'd assumed it was the same in the US, but your comment suggests that it's not the case?

How does it work in Canada?  You can still see the cemetaries of the Puritans and Virginia planters but, on the other hand, sometimes urban cemetaries are moved outside the city limits as the land becomes too valuable.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Josephus

Quote from: Valmy on July 22, 2011, 12:42:32 PM
Quote from: Jacob on July 22, 2011, 12:39:46 PM
In Europe there's a time limt on it, otherwise they'll run out of land to bury people. I'd assumed it was the same in the US, but your comment suggests that it's not the case?

How does it work in Canada?  You can still see the cemetaries of the Puritans and Virginia planters but, on the other hand, sometimes urban cemetaries are moved outside the city limits as the land becomes too valuable.

I don't know for sure, but I'm ninety per cent sure you buy your plot in perpetutiy. Of course we've been burying people for a few centuries less than Euros have, and we're not too concerned about ancient Indian burial grounds
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Jacob

Quote from: Valmy on July 22, 2011, 12:42:32 PMHow does it work in Canada?  You can still see the cemetaries of the Puritans and Virginia planters but, on the other hand, sometimes urban cemetaries are moved outside the city limits as the land becomes too valuable.

I don't know. I've never been involved in a funeral in Canada enough to find out.

Razgovory

Quote from: Jacob on July 22, 2011, 12:39:46 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on July 21, 2011, 10:08:00 PMI think it's common in Europe, where people can't stand the idea of someone only a bit of land.

In the US, do you keep your plot of land in the cemetery in perpetuity?

In Europe there's a time limt on it, otherwise they'll run out of land to bury people. I'd assumed it was the same in the US, but your comment suggests that it's not the case?

I've never seen a rental cemetery.  All the cemeteries I've seen have permanent residents.  Admittedly most cemeteries aren't very old in Jefferson City, there aren't any graves older then the 19th century.  I'm pretty sure my great grand father is still in the same place he was 50 years ago.
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