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Started by Liep, March 11, 2009, 02:57:29 PM

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Gups

What amazes me is just how incompetently this has been handled. Feels like they rushed into it without any real groundwork and its blown up in their faces completely. There will now be sustained pressure on the owners of the English clubs at least together with a real threat of regulation. The super league was a great bargaining chip for them against UEFA but it's been thrown away. The CL is now the only game in town. UEFA can now run it as tehy please without reference to anyone but the national associations and the ECA (which the six have all left).

All of the other EPL clubs now hate them and will do what they can to screw them up. Their players and staff are embarrassed and a lot of their fans will be completely disillusioned.

There's a great book in this for a journalist who can get inside sources.

FunkMonk

Quote from: The Larch on April 21, 2021, 10:23:45 AM
More possible unintended consequences:

QuoteEuropean Super League: Uefa under pressure to ditch Champions League coefficient safety net

Uefa is set to be hit with a concerted campaign to drop its plan for two Champions League places awarded on the basis of historical performances in Europe.

The collapse of the Super League has led to a power shift away from Europe's elite clubs and now the European Leagues and figures in the European Club Association — which is now without any representatives from the 12 clubs who joined the Super League — are poised to launch an effort to change the access system planned for 2024.

Arsenal, whose only real hope to qualify for the CL within the next few years is a favorable historical coefficient, may now have inadvertently denied themselves such a place because they participated in this travesty. They've Arsenaled it up.
Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

Sheilbh

Quote from: FunkMonk on April 21, 2021, 11:07:29 AM
Arsenal, whose only real hope to qualify for the CL within the next few years is a favorable historical coefficient, may now have inadvertently denied themselves such a place because they participated in this travesty. They've Arsenaled it up.
Maybe Gunnersaurus moved to JP Morgan :o
Let's bomb Russia!

Josquius

Heh, Southampton and Wolves had a nice reaction to this.

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HVC

i don't get it. can you explain to the non-european?
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

Josquius

Quote from: HVC on April 21, 2021, 11:18:54 AM
i don't get it. can you explain to the non-european?
They finished 7th those years. The 6 English teams involved in the super league stuff being above them. So take them away and...
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Gups

If the six ESL teams are stripped out, Wolves woudl have won in 2018/19 (actually not true if you also strip out everyone's results against those six)

Duque de Bragança

Quote from: The Larch on April 21, 2021, 10:23:45 AM
More possible unintended consequences:

QuoteEuropean Super League: Uefa under pressure to ditch Champions League coefficient safety net

Uefa is set to be hit with a concerted campaign to drop its plan for two Champions League places awarded on the basis of historical performances in Europe.

The collapse of the Super League has led to a power shift away from Europe's elite clubs and now the European Leagues and figures in the European Club Association — which is now without any representatives from the 12 clubs who joined the Super League — are poised to launch an effort to change the access system planned for 2024.

Let's see if it works.


FunkMonk

Quote from: Sheilbh on April 21, 2021, 11:09:40 AM
Quote from: FunkMonk on April 21, 2021, 11:07:29 AM
Arsenal, whose only real hope to qualify for the CL within the next few years is a favorable historical coefficient, may now have inadvertently denied themselves such a place because they participated in this travesty. They've Arsenaled it up.
Maybe Gunnersaurus moved to JP Morgan :o

:lol:
Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

Sheilbh

Quote from: The Larch on April 21, 2021, 10:23:45 AM
More possible unintended consequences:

QuoteEuropean Super League: Uefa under pressure to ditch Champions League coefficient safety net

Uefa is set to be hit with a concerted campaign to drop its plan for two Champions League places awarded on the basis of historical performances in Europe.

The collapse of the Super League has led to a power shift away from Europe's elite clubs and now the European Leagues and figures in the European Club Association — which is now without any representatives from the 12 clubs who joined the Super League — are poised to launch an effort to change the access system planned for 2024.
Apparently all the 6 in England have been told they can either step down or be dismissed from various Premier League working groups. I think there's a sense that executives probably shouldn't be helping develop the Premier League's broadcasting strategy when they've spent the last few months secretly trying to launch a competitor or other league that would damage the value of the Premier League.
Let's bomb Russia!

celedhring

Apparently the SuperLeague broke Real Madrid's own bylaws  :lol:

They are barred from participating in tournaments unsanctioned by the Spanish FA.

Jacob

Quote from: celedhring on April 21, 2021, 12:01:20 PM
Apparently the SuperLeague broke Real Madrid's own bylaws  :lol:

They are barred from participating in tournaments unsanctioned by the Spanish FA.

Oopsies!

Will that have any consequences within the Real Madrid organization?

The Larch

Quote from: Jacob on April 21, 2021, 12:07:12 PM
Quote from: celedhring on April 21, 2021, 12:01:20 PM
Apparently the SuperLeague broke Real Madrid's own bylaws  :lol:

They are barred from participating in tournaments unsanctioned by the Spanish FA.

Oopsies!

Will that have any consequences within the Real Madrid organization?

Doubtful, Florentino is supposed to be fully entrenched in the presidency and there's no significant opposition to his rule (he won the latest elections quite recently after running unopposed).

The Larch

Btw, the Spanish league seems to be taking the piss about the whole thing in tonight's game, according to the TV feed:


celedhring

Quote from: The Larch on April 21, 2021, 12:13:37 PM
Quote from: Jacob on April 21, 2021, 12:07:12 PM
Quote from: celedhring on April 21, 2021, 12:01:20 PM
Apparently the SuperLeague broke Real Madrid's own bylaws  :lol:

They are barred from participating in tournaments unsanctioned by the Spanish FA.

Oopsies!

Will that have any consequences within the Real Madrid organization?

Doubtful, Florentino is supposed to be fully entrenched in the presidency and there's no significant opposition to his rule (he won the latest elections quite recently after running unopposed).

He ran unopposed because he changed the bylaws so only him and probably 2-3 people in the entire fucking world meet the requisites to stand for the presidency.  :lol:

But I agree he'd have won in a landslide anyway. But I find telling that he went public with the ESL immediately after securing another term.