Football (Soccer) Thread

[FunkMonk]

At least American soccer fans can finally develop an ever-present cynicism about their national team that most of the major soccer nations have.   

"I BELIEVE THAT WE WILL W-"

"oh........ "

[Valmy]

There are probably a dozen countries 1/100th the size of the US that could beat them on a regular basis.

Oh great. Is this the obnoxious ignorant bullshit I have to put up with now?

Feel free to list these dozen countries with three million people or less along with their record against the US. Uruguay maybe but, you know, they have only ever beaten the US once.

[grumbler]

USA reminds me a bit of England. They're like the England of CONCACAF. They think they're a lot better than they are, and feel entitled to win everything and cry when they don't.

The US yawns when the the US teams win at soccer, and yawns when they lose.  The Americans don't think that "they're a lot better than they are," they think that they are a lot ore boring than they (possibly) are.  It is possible that both US soccer fans feel entitled, but if they do, neither is admitting it.

[Barrister]

Aren't most American soccer fans more fans of rooting for various european countries anyways, rather than their own national team?

Or is that just in Canada, where our national team doesn't ever win anything.

[Grey Fox]

Aren't most American soccer fans more fans of rooting for various european countries anyways, rather than their own national team?

Or is that just in Canada, where our men national team doesn't ever win anything.

Fixed it.

[FunkMonk]

USA reminds me a bit of England. They're like the England of CONCACAF. They think they're a lot better than they are, and feel entitled to win everything and cry when they don't.

The US yawns when the the US teams win at soccer, and yawns when they lose.  The Americans don't think that "they're a lot better than they are," they think that they are a lot ore boring than they (possibly) are.  It is possible that both US soccer fans feel entitled, but if they do, neither is admitting it.

American fans are arrogant and entitled in general but generally that's because we're actually good at basically every other sport except soccer, so yes, American soccer fans are entitled.

[Valmy]

American fans are arrogant and entitled in general but generally that's because we're actually good at basically every other sport except soccer, so yes, American soccer fans are entitled.

I think we should put a little bit of pressure on our national team to at least be respectable. That requires being entitled and bitching.

[Valmy]

Aren't most American soccer fans more fans of rooting for various european countries anyways, rather than their own national team?

I think most fans around the world have countries they root for besides their own. Even Brazilians and Germans...well maybe not them.

[alfred russel]

One of the most famous cheers of US soccer fans is repeating over and over: "I believe that we will win."

It is a chant that started because it was so unlikely that the US would actually win. Germany and Brazil don't chant that because it is a dumb chant and they probably have better ones, but also because everyone thinks they will win. An underdog taking on a powerhouse chanting about winning is bold and brazen, but the powerhouse with such a chant is just stupid.

My point being, US fans realize their team is less than top tier on the international stage.

[FunkMonk]

American fans are arrogant and entitled in general but generally that's because we're actually good at basically every other sport except soccer, so yes, American soccer fans are entitled.

I think we should put a little bit of pressure on our national team to at least be respectable. That requires being entitled and bitching.

That is fair and something I agree with. With the amount of resources at the disposal of the USSF it really is inexcusable to have only 3 wins in the Hex. The players are bad, the coaches are bad, the youth setup is bad (our youth squads haven't made the past 2 Olympics) .

Remember Gulati saying something several years ago to the effect of winning the World Cup in 20 years?

Hopefully this disaster lights a fire and things turn around for 2022 or 2026.

[Maladict]

There are probably a dozen countries 1/100th the size of the US that could beat them on a regular basis.

Oh great. Is this the obnoxious ignorant bullshit I have to put up with now?

Feel free to list these dozen countries with three million people or less along with their record against the US. Uruguay maybe but, you know, they have only ever beaten the US once.

Relax 
My side crashed out too, and is possibly lost even deeper in the desert 








Iceland will kick the crap out of you though 

[Valmy]

Well ok after that last Euro I cannot dispute that 

But seriously losing to all those Caribbean and Central American states should not happen. I mean it is going to happen sometimes because it is soccer but it should be rare.

[FunkMonk]

There are probably a dozen countries 1/100th the size of the US that could beat them on a regular basis.

Oh great. Is this the obnoxious ignorant bullshit I have to put up with now?

Feel free to list these dozen countries with three million people or less along with their record against the US. Uruguay maybe but, you know, they have only ever beaten the US once.

Relax 
My side crashed out too, and is possibly lost even deeper in the desert 








Iceland will kick the crap out of you though 

We will join our brothers from the Netherlands and Chile in football Valhalla. 

[FunkMonk]

Well ok after that last Euro I cannot dispute that 

But seriously losing to all those Caribbean and Central American states should not happen. I mean it is going to happen sometimes because it is soccer but it should be rare.

Yup. In past cycles the US pretty handily qualified. The Hex is basically constructed such that the US and Mexico have a strong chance to at least get to a playoff for a final World Cup berth. The US placed 1st in the Hex in the 2006, 2010, and 2014 qualification cycles.

3 wins in 10 games against teams like TnT, Honduras, and Panama is pretty pathetic. I can honestly forgive losses to Mexico and Costa Rica, historically decent sides.

[Duque de Bragança]

Aren't most American soccer fans more fans of rooting for various european countries anyways, rather than their own national team?

I think most fans around the world have countries they root for besides their own. Even Brazilians and Germans...well maybe not them.

Brazilians will root for anybody against Argentina. 
Germans? Anybody playing against Italy or the Netherlands, or back in the day, England.