FP Magazine: "Was John F. Kennedy the worst U.S. president of the 20th century"

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Eddie Teach

#15
July 19, 2011, 10:16:39 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 19, 2011, 05:33:50 AM
The controversial title appealed to me and thought it would stimulate discussion.

If he really wanted to stir up controversy, he should have gone with FDR.
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July 19, 2011, 11:19:49 AM
Quote from: grumbler on July 19, 2011, 09:36:12 AMHe was an extremely mediocre president, and those are the easiest kind to get extreme about in over-rating as well as under-rating.

OMG! McKinley was teh dev0l!!!111
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July 19, 2011, 11:21:18 AM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on July 19, 2011, 11:19:49 AM
Quote from: grumbler on July 19, 2011, 09:36:12 AMHe was an extremely mediocre president, and those are the easiest kind to get extreme about in over-rating as well as under-rating.

OMG! McKinley was teh dev0l!!!111

Wot?  He wuz teh best evah!
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Eddie Teach

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July 19, 2011, 11:23:03 AM
We should have kept Cuba and the Philippines.
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July 19, 2011, 11:50:26 AM
Quote from: Martinus on July 19, 2011, 03:07:50 AM
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July 19, 2011, 12:28:12 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 19, 2011, 06:15:31 AM
Worst president of the 20th century?  Meh, not quite. 
Hoover, Nixon, Carter and Poppy Bush had mediocre/bad presidencies, and Dubya's presidency was so fucking bad, it actually went back in time and stunk up the 20th century.

That's bizarre.

grumbler

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July 19, 2011, 12:37:19 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on July 19, 2011, 10:16:39 AM
If he really wanted to stir up controversy, he should have gone with FDR.
Agreed.  FDR's best was far better than JFK's best, and his worst far worse.  Depending on what I am researching, I think of FDR as a monster or a saint.
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July 19, 2011, 01:30:39 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on July 19, 2011, 11:23:03 AM
We should have kept Cuba and the Philippines.

Cuba, yes; Philippines no.
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July 19, 2011, 03:45:47 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on July 19, 2011, 01:30:39 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on July 19, 2011, 11:23:03 AM
We should have kept Cuba and the Philippines.

Cuba, yes; Philippines no.

Given that you still have most of the cubano's anyways...
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July 19, 2011, 05:39:40 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 19, 2011, 12:28:12 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 19, 2011, 06:15:31 AM
Worst president of the 20th century?  Meh, not quite. 
Hoover, Nixon, Carter and Poppy Bush had mediocre/bad presidencies, and Dubya's presidency was so fucking bad, it actually went back in time and stunk up the 20th century.

That's bizarre.

Even you can realize that "mediocre/bad" is not "mediocre-bad".

He was an unimpressively mediocre president.  Watched the Wall fall in a law chair.  Backed the wrong horse in Moscow. Rescued the most hated Arabs in the region from Saddam.  Let Chinese Democracy get run over without so much as a strong letter to follow.  Gets an aircraft carrier named after him while he's still alive. Yahoo.

CountDeMoney

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July 19, 2011, 05:41:59 PM
Quote from: grumbler on July 19, 2011, 09:36:12 AM
He was a hell of a lot more knowledgeable than Obama, though.  He probably had the best training to be president of any president; maybe even any presidential candidate.

He was certainly one of the most presidential presidents we've had in recent decades.

Until he barfed all over Japan.

mongers

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July 19, 2011, 05:51:51 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 19, 2011, 05:39:40 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 19, 2011, 12:28:12 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 19, 2011, 06:15:31 AM
Worst president of the 20th century?  Meh, not quite. 
Hoover, Nixon, Carter and Poppy Bush had mediocre/bad presidencies, and Dubya's presidency was so fucking bad, it actually went back in time and stunk up the 20th century.

That's bizarre.

Even you can realize that "mediocre/bad" is not "mediocre-bad".

He was an unimpressively mediocre president.  Watched the Wall fall in a law chair.  Backed the wrong horse in Moscow. Rescued the most hated Arabs in the region from Saddam.  Let Chinese Democracy get run over without so much as a strong letter to follow.  Gets an aircraft carrier named after him while he's still alive. Yahoo.

Not forgetting he needed Maggie T to give him the backbone to do that.
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grumbler

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July 19, 2011, 06:49:32 PM
Quote from: mongers on July 19, 2011, 05:51:51 PM
Not forgetting he needed Maggie T to give him the backbone to do that.
Of course not.  We cannot forget the greatest British myth since the the myth of The Few!
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#28
July 19, 2011, 06:55:32 PM
Quote from: grumbler on July 19, 2011, 06:49:32 PMOf course not.  We cannot forget the greatest British myth since the the myth of The Few!

How many other British PMs could manage to violate the Monroe Doctrine, the Rio Treaty, a pro-Argie OAS resolution Reagan supported before the colonial excursion, and the subsequent unanimous vote condemning the UK?

Maybe Lord Salisbury.  Maybe.

mongers

#29
July 19, 2011, 06:58:04 PM
Quote from: grumbler on July 19, 2011, 06:49:32 PM
Quote from: mongers on July 19, 2011, 05:51:51 PM
Not forgetting he needed Maggie T to give him the backbone to do that.
Of course not.  We cannot forget the greatest British myth since the the myth of The Few!

It's kinda cute how grumbler stalks you from thread to thread.
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